Re: [opensuse] Buggy thunderbird 13?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-23 12:27, DenverD wrote:
On 07/22/2012 01:50 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I do want compacting to happen, I have had the setting enabled for years without a problem. It is now that it is problematic.
yes....me too....but, you can turn it off and then use the right click on a directory and select 'compacting' when it is good for you, rather than the unthinking software..
No, I have far too many folders. (I assume you send PM by mistake) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlANJ7wACgkQIvFNjefEBxomkwCeNhmY4CkWNPYKdmFMhtYJtCXj 9vkAniHr2R3r2VTlxCr5gKh3WS/fGtZg =Dx4h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 23/07/12 20:30, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-07-23 12:27, DenverD wrote:
On 07/22/2012 01:50 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I do want compacting to happen, I have had the setting enabled for years without a problem. It is now that it is problematic. yes....me too....but, you can turn it off and then use the right click on a directory and select 'compacting' when it is good for you, rather than the unthinking software.. No, I have far too many folders.
(I assume you send PM by mistake)
I don't use the option of "compact when it would save xxxxx of space" (or whatever it is called). I have this option turned off. But what I DO do is that whenever I think of it - at the end of the day or every second day or whenever - I highlight the main Folder which holds my mail - in my case *IINET* under which is my Inbox and its sub-folders - and go to File>Compact Folders and ALL the folders for all the mail I receive addressed to my ISP, IINET, are then compacted. When I did this with my old, 32-bit system, this may have taken anything up to 10-15 seconds to do but now it takes anything up to 2 or 4 seconds. All lf this, of course, depends on how many messages I have moved from any folders to others (like opensuse ==> trash). BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.8.4 & kernel 3.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-23 13:07, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 23/07/12 20:30, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't use the option of "compact when it would save xxxxx of space" (or whatever it is called). I have this option turned off.
But what I DO do is that whenever I think of it - at the end of the day or every second day or whenever - I highlight the main Folder which holds my mail - in my case *IINET* under which is my Inbox and its sub-folders - and go to File>Compact Folders and ALL the folders for all the mail I receive addressed to my ISP, IINET, are then compacted.
I have several main folders :-) There is the Inbox, which holds the inbox of several accounts. Then there is Drafts, Templates, Sent, Junk, ditto. Then there is another entry for each of my accounts - this mode of display I think was called "smart view", I don't remember, and there is no button to change it directly (it was there on another version). One of the accounts is the local account with dovecot which holds all. Then there is the local folders pseudo-account. To many places to click on; computers are made to save us work, not for us to work for them >:-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlANQ0YACgkQIvFNjefEBxqZSgCgz5gFwEp+TcM4SnIUNGyeoIgH sGIAn0JbCNqiW64FFrhFmPenqVXa+YOw =NjBX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/07/23 14:27 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
I have several main folders :-)
Me too, since long before TB was a twinkle in its mother's eye (first Netscape 4, then Mozilla Suite {Netscape 5, 6, 7} from which sprung FF, SM & TB). ...
To many places to click on; computers are made to save us work, not for us to work for them>:-)
You manage to make it sound more complicated than it is. Each account has a separate trash, so to empty trash, you must do it separately for each account. Empty trash takes all of a millisecond, but doesn't actually get rid of anything, doesn't save any dish space. To do that requires compacting folders. So, since many many moons before the birth of TB, I made a habit to first click inbox, then empty trash, then compact folders, all in the space of less than 3 seconds. The result is trash really gets emptied for that account. I do this nightly for my busy account, and at random times for other accounts. Why there is no configuration option for the empty trash selection to trigger compacting is beyond me, since empty trash alone does nothing but hide "deleted" emails from the UI. Until compaction is performed, the "deleted" files remain hidden within their respective "folders". If clicking on compact folders after clicking empty trash is really so much trouble, you might want to consider changing the value of compact when it will save to 1, so that compacting will automatically happen rather quickly after each relatively small group of messages is deleted. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-23 15:13, Felix Miata wrote:
If clicking on compact folders after clicking empty trash is really so much trouble, you might want to consider changing the value of compact when it will save to 1, so that compacting will automatically happen rather quickly after each relatively small group of messages is deleted.
That is what I do, that's my config for years. The problem reported here is that when doing other operations, like for example, syncing for offline use, the operation stops saying that another operation has the folder busy, probably compacting. Absurd. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlANU9oACgkQIvFNjefEBxqU7QCgx0/6MwwKYgT0lYN951Wr15f0 9vEAoLEMvE3FO4b5WzBvQpbb0wPVb5JA =bOBq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 23.07.2012 15:38, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2012-07-23 15:13, Felix Miata wrote:
If clicking on compact folders after clicking empty trash is really so much trouble, you might want to consider changing the value of compact when it will save to 1, so that compacting will automatically happen rather quickly after each relatively small group of messages is deleted.
That is what I do, that's my config for years.
The problem reported here is that when doing other operations, like for example, syncing for offline use, the operation stops saying that another operation has the folder busy, probably compacting. Absurd.
Just to make sure for people having such issues and I'm not sure if that is known to everyone. If there is any pointer to "Tracker" in TB's addon view please remove package tracker-miner-thunderbird. It is known to be a major performance culprit to Thunderbird. Wolfgang
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-23 15:50, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Am 23.07.2012 15:38, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Just to make sure for people having such issues and I'm not sure if that is known to everyone. If there is any pointer to "Tracker" in TB's addon view please remove package tracker-miner-thunderbird. It is known to be a major performance culprit to Thunderbird.
The addons view shows: Adobe reader 9.5 DjView-4.6 Google Talk Plugin Google Talk Plugin Video Accelerator Java NPAPI Parole media player Shockwave Flash Skype Buttons for Kopete Xine Plugin and a few more disabled. I have no idea why google talk is there, I have not added those plugins to thunderbird myself, it must be seeing firefox plugins. As extensions I have a Spanish dictionary, Enigmail 1.4.2 and Test Pilot for Th. 1.3.9. I don't see the UK English dictionary I have. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlANlPoACgkQIvFNjefEBxqeTgCgloxpZzqGwQRQSXHF9qEDPf7b OUAAnjUL7qs/by4E/oe+Eu6UhwwF+hGc =mV6x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/07/23 15:38 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
The problem reported here is that when doing other operations, like for example, syncing for offline use, the operation stops saying that another operation has the folder busy, probably compacting. Absurd.
Again, reporting the problem here is unlikely other than futile. I remember having this same problem in SM quite some time back, a year or more I think at least, but I remember nothing about how it went away. I suggest you look at Mozilla's Bugzilla, and Mozillazine, for an existing bug, and if you don't find a solution, file a bug there. Possibly it had something to do with a filtering error of some kind. Have you changed your TB filters lately? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-23 16:14, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012/07/23 15:38 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
Again, reporting the problem here is unlikely other than futile.
I'm not reporting, I'm RFC, prior to bugzilla.
Possibly it had something to do with a filtering error of some kind. Have you changed your TB filters lately?
Nope, and my filters are very simple (colorize on certain headers). My laptop has none. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlANkdoACgkQIvFNjefEBxqEBQCfYePRtFBWmfaIxrs07FDnVK5D HtQAoKkNVa9f/4DS9tgUdSOWxfXL/3Wq =qJHz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Basil Chupin
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Carlos E. R.
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Felix Miata
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Wolfgang Rosenauer