[opensuse] How to get install DVD for 42.3?
I came back from a trip and wanted to transfer my photos from the camera to Google Photos, as I had done in June. I transferred them first to my Leap 42.2 desktop. I found that digikam could no longer transfer the files to Google Photos, apparently due to a change to the API. There was no other version of digikam for 42.2, so I would have to upgrade to 42.3. I downloaded the .iso file for Leap 42.3. But when I tried to burn it to a DVD, I got some error messages from k3b that direct burning was not permitted in my (v42.2) version. I tried to use the cdrecord application, but it also failed. In short, the process I have always used for downloading a .iso file and burning it to a DVD on the latest (and fully updated) openSuSE version, that is available prior to a new release, does not work. This is not at all a good roll-out procedure. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/08/2017 06:07 PM, Joseph Comfort wrote:
I came back from a trip and wanted to transfer my photos from the camera to Google Photos, as I had done in June. I transferred them first to my Leap 42.2 desktop. I found that digikam could no longer transfer the files to Google Photos, apparently due to a change to the API. There was no other version of digikam for 42.2, so I would have to upgrade to 42.3.
I downloaded the .iso file for Leap 42.3. But when I tried to burn it to a DVD, I got some error messages from k3b that direct burning was not permitted in my (v42.2) version. I tried to use the cdrecord application, but it also failed.
In short, the process I have always used for downloading a .iso file and burning it to a DVD on the latest (and fully updated) openSuSE version, that is available prior to a new release, does not work. This is not at all a good roll-out procedure.
For quite a while, I haven't bothered with DVDs. I just copy the ISO to a USB pen drive and boot from it. Works fine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-09 00:07, Joseph Comfort wrote:
I came back from a trip and wanted to transfer my photos from the camera to Google Photos, as I had done in June. I transferred them first to my Leap 42.2 desktop. I found that digikam could no longer transfer the files to Google Photos, apparently due to a change to the API. There was no other version of digikam for 42.2, so I would have to upgrade to 42.3.
That's one method, yes.
I downloaded the .iso file for Leap 42.3. But when I tried to burn it to a DVD, I got some error messages from k3b that direct burning was not permitted in my (v42.2) version. I tried to use the cdrecord application, but it also failed.
We can examine that error with cdrecord. How exactly did you use it, and what exact error did you get?
In short, the process I have always used for downloading a .iso file and burning it to a DVD on the latest (and fully updated) openSuSE version, that is available prior to a new release, does not work. This is not at all a good roll-out procedure.
Your problems are not related at all to the new release, but to some problem on your machine with burning DVDs. Anyway, that's not the only procedure; Why not use an USB stick instead? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
I will try to reproduce the cdrecord error and let you know. I copied the command from the document located on the download page regarding "How to burn a DVD on Linux." I tried my process on 2 different computers at 2 different locations. They are 64-bit with essentially all the same rpm packages. DVDs have always been much more convenient for me for my work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-09 00:37, Joseph Comfort wrote:
I will try to reproduce the cdrecord error and let you know. I copied the command from the document located on the download page regarding "How to burn a DVD on Linux."
I tried my process on 2 different computers at 2 different locations. They are 64-bit with essentially all the same rpm packages. DVDs have always been much more convenient for me for my work.
DVD writers are prone to failure without warning. Or you might have some kind of problem. Also, the procedure might have errors in the description that have escaped attention and that we can correct. Thus if you can tell us the URL, the command, and the error, we can try to find out what went wrong, thanks :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 09/08/17 00:07, Joseph Comfort wrote:
I came back from a trip and wanted to transfer my photos from the camera to Google Photos, as I had done in June. I transferred them first to my Leap 42.2 desktop. I found that digikam could no longer transfer the files to Google Photos, apparently due to a change to the API. There was no other version of digikam for 42.2, so I would have to upgrade to 42.3.
Version 5.6 is available for Leap 42.2 in the KDE:Extra repo: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ It's not an 'official' repo but it's a commonly used one.
I downloaded the .iso file for Leap 42.3. But when I tried to burn it to a DVD, I got some error messages from k3b that direct burning was not permitted in my (v42.2) version. I tried to use the cdrecord application, but it also failed.
I don't know about that cdrecord suggestion on the SDB page, I've never tried it. I've never had specific problems burning a distro ISO to a DVD though I've not tried it yet under K3B on 42.2. Sometimes it's best to select the option in K3B to 'Only create an image'. Then afterwards, choose the option to Burn an Image File and locate the image you created previously. That breaks it into two steps so that if the first part succeeds, you can try burning again with less hassle. Also, when the blank DVD is inserted, go the menu option 'Media Info' in K3B, have a look at the disc info and make sure all is good for burning, e.g. that 'Writeable' is marked as 'yes', there are no existing sessions or errors, etc. And that it is a DVD type supported by your drive.
In short, the process I have always used for downloading a .iso file and burning it to a DVD on the latest (and fully updated) openSuSE version, that is available prior to a new release, does not work. This is not at all a good roll-out procedure.
Like a lot of the openSUSE wiki, that particular paragraph is rather out-of-date and could be more informative, but it seems the hipster crowd all moved onto USB sticks long ago and nobody pays attention anymore to what the wiki says about DVDs. gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Gumbo, Thank you for the helpful advice. I will try the v5.6 when I get home. Yeah, I am a bit old-fashioned, having been with SuSE since version 5. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Joseph Comfort composed on 2017-08-08 16:28 (UTC-0700): > Yeah, I am a bit old-fashioned, having been with SuSE since version 5. Were you buying boxed CDs, or did you do it how I did, via some form of net installation? There were no free DVD .isos back when I started, no free .isos of any kind that I knew about. Upgrades can be done without downloading anything in advance, by updating /etc/zypp/repos.d/*.repo contents to read 42.3 instead of 42.2 and using zypper dup. Network installations can be done in essentially same manner as before openSUSE was born: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Network_installation and https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Linuxrc The former is a little out of date, but there should be enough there to get by on your own, we'll still be here for any questions you might have about what you find there. Its main shortcoming is it hasn't been updated to use Grub2[1] instead of Grub for media-free installation. Maybe your K3B burning problem wouldn't exist if you were trying to burn the net install CD .iso instead of a DVD .iso? Media-free is the installation type I've been using most of the time all the way back to 8.0 IIRC. It downloads only what's needed, and only once, meaning lastest updates are used rather than only what was on the DVD media. [1] I'd update the wiki page, except I don't use Grub2, and don't know what should be added to or displace the Grub instructions present there. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Thanks to all for comments and suggestions. Here is my status: I am sure I made a mistake in trying to run cdrecord. I don't think I changed the 'isofile' in the command [under How to burn a DVD under Linux] to the actual file name. So cdrecord is probably OK. Sorry. digikam 5.6 needs additional rpms (no surprise, of course) but I am not in the mood to go that way. The document "How to create a bootable USB stick under Linux" is rather awkward and scary for those who are not experienced with it. It seems to involve a utility download, and reformats (possibly 2). Also the 1-click install does not have an option for Leap 42.2 (or.3). Both DVDs and sticks have good and poor aspects. I still favor DVDs, for reasons given by others. Solution: I found a solution. I have a laptop still running v13.2. I copied the .iso to the laptop and used the k3b there. The DVD appears to run fine on v42.2. I plan to wait a little while before actually doing the install so that the bugs in v42.3 are identified and patched. The pictures can wait. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/08/17 06:11, Joseph Comfort wrote:
digikam 5.6 needs additional rpms (no surprise, of course) but I am not in the mood to go that way.
Solution: I found a solution. I have a laptop still running v13.2. I copied the .iso to the laptop and used the k3b there. The DVD appears to run fine on v42.2. I plan to wait a little while before actually doing the install so that the bugs in v42.3 are identified and patched. The pictures can wait.
Alternative solution: you can grab the Appimage version of Digikam 5.6 here: https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/ Click the i386 or x86-64.appimage link down near the bottom. Save it anywhere in the relevant user's home directory, e.g. /bin and simply make it executable. When you click/double-click to run it the first time, it may prompt you whether you want to install an entry for it in your menu. The application runs independently with all dependencies included in the download. I've only done this with one application so far so I haven't even looked up how to do a full uninstall including any created config files, but presumably there is some standardization to only place files in a limited set of common places in a user's home directory. Perhaps somebody else knows more about this? gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-09 06:11, Joseph Comfort wrote:
Thanks to all for comments and suggestions. Here is my status:
I am sure I made a mistake in trying to run cdrecord. I don't think I changed the 'isofile' in the command [under How to burn a DVD under Linux] to the actual file name. So cdrecord is probably OK. Sorry.
Don't worry, you got it burnt on another system, but we still could find out whether you can burn under 42.2 or not, and correct the situation :-)
digikam 5.6 needs additional rpms (no surprise, of course) but I am not in the mood to go that way.
I think the same way.
The document "How to create a bootable USB stick under Linux" is rather awkward and scary for those who are not experienced with it. It seems to involve a utility download, and reformats (possibly 2). Also the 1-click install does not have an option for Leap 42.2 (or.3).
Download you already did, you do not need to do it again. The only thing is that you should check its checksum to know for sure that the download was correct - no matter if you are going to create the DVD or the USB stick. And then you simply need to copy the image file to the stick, an operation for which you can use a simple copy command. The snag is that you have to do the copy to the raw device, for which you need to be root. For example, if the stick is /dev/sdc (never sdc1, that's a partition), then you can do: cp image.iso /dev/sdc and wait it out. Simple. Of course, if you copy the image to the wrong device, you convert that other disk into an openSUSE install disk, erasing whatever it had previously. And there are some GUI tools to automate this somewhat.
Both DVDs and sticks have good and poor aspects. I still favor DVDs, for reasons given by others.
Solution: I found a solution. I have a laptop still running v13.2. I copied the .iso to the laptop and used the k3b there. The DVD appears to run fine on v42.2. I plan to wait a little while before actually doing the install so that the bugs in v42.3 are identified and patched. The pictures can wait.
Ok! :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Joseph Comfort wrote:
Thanks to all for comments and suggestions. Here is my status:
I am sure I made a mistake in trying to run cdrecord. I don't think I changed the 'isofile' in the command [under How to burn a DVD under Linux] to the actual file name. So cdrecord is probably OK. Sorry.
digikam 5.6 needs additional rpms (no surprise, of course) but I am not in the mood to go that way.
The document "How to create a bootable USB stick under Linux" is rather awkward and scary for those who are not experienced with it.
I'm somewhat familiar with creating the USB from the NET iso - ISTR it being simply a 'dd' ? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (20.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-09 15:51, Per Jessen wrote:
Joseph Comfort wrote:
Thanks to all for comments and suggestions. Here is my status:
I am sure I made a mistake in trying to run cdrecord. I don't think I changed the 'isofile' in the command [under How to burn a DVD under Linux] to the actual file name. So cdrecord is probably OK. Sorry.
digikam 5.6 needs additional rpms (no surprise, of course) but I am not in the mood to go that way.
The document "How to create a bootable USB stick under Linux" is rather awkward and scary for those who are not experienced with it.
I'm somewhat familiar with creating the USB from the NET iso - ISTR it being simply a 'dd' ?
dd, cat, echo, cp... anything works. dd has the advantage of adjusting the parameters and getting more speed. Plus some GUI tools that facilitate finding the external device (not failure safe, though). Joseph, if you are finding instructions on "How to create a bootable USB stick under Linux" on Google, discard them! They are destructive with openSUSE images. Use only instructions found on the official openSUSE site: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Here are my latest (and final) thoughts on the issue. (I have been extremely busy with other things.) The .iso checksum is fine. After trying K3B another time, it worked! I do not know what I did differently to make it work. cdrecord is fine, as far as I know. Thanks, Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/08/2017 04:17 PM, gumb wrote:
Like a lot of the openSUSE wiki, that particular paragraph is rather out-of-date and could be more informative, but it seems the hipster crowd all moved onto USB sticks long ago and nobody pays attention anymore to what the wiki says about DVDs.
In a few years, you will find that USB stick will have been re-purposed and is no where to be found. The DVD on the shelf will still work when you need to re-install, and it costs 35 cents, and lasts at least a decade. If its worth installing, its worth a permanent medium. I've got DVDs going back at least a decade for every system I've ever run, and I've still got running systems for some of them. Buy 8Gig USB sticks, and you are lucky to get 2 gig writeable these days. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> [08-08-17 22:04]:
On 08/08/2017 04:17 PM, gumb wrote:
Like a lot of the openSUSE wiki, that particular paragraph is rather out-of-date and could be more informative, but it seems the hipster crowd all moved onto USB sticks long ago and nobody pays attention anymore to what the wiki says about DVDs.
In a few years, you will find that USB stick will have been re-purposed and is no where to be found. The DVD on the shelf will still work when you need to re-install, and it costs 35 cents, and lasts at least a decade.
If its worth installing, its worth a permanent medium. I've got DVDs going back at least a decade for every system I've ever run, and I've still got running systems for some of them.
Buy 8Gig USB sticks, and you are lucky to get 2 gig writeable these days.
just picked up a Lexar 256 gig usb3 which shows: Disk /dev/sdj: 238.5 GiB, 256063307776 bytes, 500123648 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x00000000 Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sdj1 64 500123647 500123584 238.5G c W95 FAT32 (LBA) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-09 04:02, John Andersen wrote:
If its worth installing, its worth a permanent medium. I've got DVDs going back at least a decade for every system I've ever run, and I've still got running systems for some of them.
Lately, I find that USB sticks are easier to store than a DVD. I just put the bunch in a tea tin box, and that in a bag when I travel. The DVDs need somekind of protection from scratches. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
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