Hi Brothe Hayat :-) On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, hayathms@gmail.comh wrote:

Dear Opensuse family, Please guide me, I just installed NetbeansIDE and JavaIDE development tool, but when I click it nothing happens, just that icon dances with arrow key and stops. how to make it work in user mode, what privilege should be given to user to make it work,, please advice

Please provide these information : 1. Version of Netbeans 2. Version of Java 3. Version of openSUSE Try to launch the icon within console and see what is the error message. -- Best Regards, Masim "Vavai" Sugianto /************************************************************/ Blog (ID) : http://www.vavai.com/blog Blog (EN) : http://www.vavai.net Community : http://www.opensuse.or.id Commercial : http://toko.vavai.biz /************************************************************/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday January 26 2009, hayathms@gmail.comh wrote:

Dear Opensuse family, Please guide me, I just installed NetbeansIDE and JavaIDE development tool, but when I click it nothing happens, just that icon dances with arrow key and stops. how to make it work in user mode, what privilege should be given to user to make it work,, please advice

As Masim Sugianto requested, more information is in order. However, I will venture the guess that you have only GCJ and Gnu Classpath installed. These are not acceptable for running much Java software. You should remove all the packages related to GCJ and Classpath and install the Sun JDK. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Clayton wrote:

Ha, now you know how it is for the rest of the planet that uses A4, and every bit of software we use always insists that we use US Letter.

Not to mention that they also always default to "US English" (even though the rest of the world uses "UK English") and to some Timezone in USA. Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 19:17 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

...

Clayton wrote:

...

Ha, now you know how it is for the rest of the planet that uses A4, and every bit of software we use always insists that we use US Letter.

Not to mention that they also always default to "US English" (even though the rest of the world uses "UK English") and to some Timezone in USA.

Australia just could never break free of England, eh :) :) :)

We have tried but I don't think it will happen while the current monarch is enthroned. On top of that those twits who want to elect a president the way the Americans elect their president need to rehabilitated and when they have seen the light only then could we take serious steps to break away from England and become a republic.

I think there should be a "AUS English" option as well.

Strangely enough there is that choice in Windows. There is also the choice of having an Australian dictionary in, say, Thunderbird and even OpenOffice but there is no such choice in oS setup itself. The other thing which annoys the heck out of me is that Canberra is the capital of Australia and yet it is not mentioned in the oS setup as a choice during the selection of the Timezone.

BTW, I have the same issue with the default paper always being Letter, not A4 when I add a printer via CUPS. However, when I add a printer via iPrint, it seems our company-wide printer setup sets the paper to 'default', which seems to be whatever the printer has as default. I would think that would be the better default for newly added printers than and specific choice.

I am not sure but I think that the only place where Letter is used is America while the rest of the world uses A4. It is therefore the obvious choice to have A4 as the default and if American users - who are in the minority - want Letter then they should alter the default setting. Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Rodney Baker wrote:

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 22:58:27 Basil Chupin wrote:

...

[...]

I am not sure but I think that the only place where Letter is used is America while the rest of the world uses A4. It is therefore the obvious choice to have A4 as the default and if American users - who are in the minority - want Letter then they should alter the default setting.

Hear, hear (from another parochial Aussie...) ;-)

'onya! :-) Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2009/01/26 22:10 (GMT-0800) Kai Ponte composed:

Felix Miata wrote:

...

Whenever I try to print for the first time in a new app or new user, nothing happens if I don't remember to go into the app's paper setup and select the proper paper. It seems this is because I own no A4 paper nor A4 paper trays, yet the system defaults to A4 paper In YaST2 printer, after waiting eternally for repo data I didn't ask for to download, I

There's someplace you can tell it not to refresh. I usually just launch YaST and go have a Monster or Jolt.

...

select printer options for my only printer, and driver options default paper in your printer is grayed out and set to A4. How do I change the global default to letter? What mysterious file is set to A4? How do I eradicate the possibility of using A4 paper?

I did it per printer in Geeko > Configure Desktop > Peripherals > Printers

For each printer I set the default paper size to Letter. (I currently have ten printers loaded on my laptop and two on each of my desktops.)

As I wrote in what you quoted, it does not let me make that change ("grayed out").

...

Is it even possible to acquire A4 paper in the USA?

Good question. -- "Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it." Proverbs 22:6 NIV

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 08:59:01 David C. Rankin wrote:

Felix -- tisk, tisk

        Everybody knows that the master default paper size setting is in kde control panel, under Country/Region & Language, then under the 'Other' tab at the far right.

        Find it there and I bet your problems are solved...

David, you've done it again :) I've always been annoyed that kcalendar starts the week on Sunday. Where I live, Saturday and Sunday are called the "weekend", and as such, should be displayed at the _end_ of the week IMHO. And now it does ;) Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.1, Kernel 2.6.27.7-9-default, KDE 3.5.10 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9200GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

...

...

On 1/27/2009 at 1:14 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: I have always been taught that the week started on a Sunday, with Monday being the first working day, and all the calendars which I have all have Sunday as the first day of the week.

That's just the 'lazy' approach to the week: Let's start it with a day off ;) (No offense!) Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 12:14:15 Basil Chupin wrote:

Bob Williams wrote:

...

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 08:59:01 David C. Rankin wrote:

...

Felix -- tisk, tisk

Everybody knows that the master default paper size setting is in kde control panel, under Country/Region & Language, then under the 'Other' tab at the far right.

Find it there and I bet your problems are solved...

David, you've done it again :)

I've always been annoyed that kcalendar starts the week on Sunday. Where I live, Saturday and Sunday are called the "weekend", and as such, should be displayed at the _end_ of the week IMHO.

And now it does ;)

Bob

I have always been taught that the week started on a Sunday, with Monday being the first working day, and all the calendars which I have all have Sunday as the first day of the week.

Ciao.

Still seems odd to me (IMHO again). I'm not religious, but some believe that the creator laboured for six days, and "on the seventh day, he rested". Etc., etc. OT, so I'll stop there. Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.1, Kernel 2.6.27.7-9-default, KDE 3.5.10 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9200GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 14:06:43 Dave Howorth wrote:

...

...

...

Where I live, Saturday and Sunday are called the "weekend", and as such, should be displayed at the _end_ of the week IMHO.

I have always been taught that the week started on a Sunday

Still seems odd to me (IMHO again).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week-day_names#Numerical

Enjoy, Dave

Hmm. Information overload, but very interesting. Too much to comment on. Thanks, Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.1, Kernel 2.6.27.7-9-default, KDE 3.5.10 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9200GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 16:27:20 Jos van Kan wrote:

Bob Williams schreef:

...

Still seems odd to me (IMHO again). I'm not religious, but some believe that the creator laboured for six days, and "on the seventh day, he rested". Etc., etc.

OT, so I'll stop there.

Bob

What a stupid notion, Bob. If she'd rest the universe would poof! disappear. :-)

Regards, -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704

This risks getting very deeply philosophical and therefore OT. If we ever meet in a bar, I'd be happy to discuss the gender of god; if he/she exists; if not/why not, etc., etc. Till then, all the best, Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.1, Kernel 2.6.27.7-9-default, KDE 3.5.10 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9200GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin wrote:

Bob Williams wrote:

...

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 08:59:01 David C. Rankin wrote:

...

Felix -- tisk, tisk

Everybody knows that the master default paper size setting is in kde control panel, under Country/Region & Language, then under the 'Other' tab at the far right.

Find it there and I bet your problems are solved...

David, you've done it again :)

I've always been annoyed that kcalendar starts the week on Sunday. Where I live, Saturday and Sunday are called the "weekend", and as such, should be displayed at the _end_ of the week IMHO.

And now it does ;)

Bob

I have always been taught that the week started on a Sunday, with Monday being the first working day, and all the calendars which I have all have Sunday as the first day of the week.

Ciao.

Besides, with Sunday the first day of the week and Saturday last, they really are the "weekends". ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin said the following on 01/27/2009 03:59 AM:

Everybody knows that the master default paper size setting is in kde control panel, under Country/Region & Language, then under the 'Other' tab at the far right.

Find it there and I bet your problems are solved...

What about /etc/papersize? -- I'm sure you remember Richard Clarke, the one-time special adviser to the president on cybersecurity saying: "If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, then you will be hacked. What's more, you deserve to be hacked." So we ask the "obvious" question: What kind of coffee is so good that you'd spend more on it than on IT security? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2009/01/27 13:46 (GMT+0100) Philippe Andersson composed:

Anton Aylward wrote:

...

What about /etc/papersize?

/etc/papersize is auto-generated by SuSEconfig, based on the value of the RC_LANG variable, as defined in /etc/sysconfig/language.

Here RC_LC_PAPER was set to "". I changed it to letter and restarted YaST2 printer, but it didn't help. I suppose the change to language probably only takes effect after log out and back in, and I'm not prepared to do that 20+ minute process for a while. However, on reopening YaST2 printer and finding default paper in your printer still grayed out, I deselected driver options, then selected it, with the result that the gray went away, and I was able to select letter. I switched printer tabs to see what they contained, then came back to printer options, and found default paper in your printer again grayed out. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464473 After finishing, I tried printing a test page, but nothing happens. KJobViewer shows queued jobs, but nothing to indicate why nothing happens. When I try to remove a job in KJobViewer, I get an error popup: Unable to perform action "Remove" on selected jobs. Error received from manager: Execution of lprm failed:. BTW, printer is LaserJet4M on 192.168.1.4, and OS/2 has no problem printing to it. -- "Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it." Proverbs 22:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata wrote:

On 2009/01/27 13:46 (GMT+0100) Philippe Andersson composed:

...

Anton Aylward wrote:

...

...

What about /etc/papersize?

...

/etc/papersize is auto-generated by SuSEconfig, based on the value of the RC_LANG variable, as defined in /etc/sysconfig/language.

Here RC_LC_PAPER was set to "". I changed it to letter and restarted YaST2 printer, but it didn't help. I suppose the change to language probably only takes effect after log out and back in, and I'm not prepared to do that 20+ minute process for a while. You need to run "SuSEconfig" to activate a change to RC_LANG, at least as far as /etc/papersize is concerned. No need to log out.

What are the current values of your RC_LANG (not in your environment, but the in /etc/sysconfig file) and contents of /etc/papersize ? Ph. A. -- *Philippe Andersson* Unix System Administrator IBA Particle Therapy | Tel: +32-10-475.983 Fax: +32-10-487.707 eMail: pan@iba-group.com http://www.iba-worldwide.com The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are intended solely for the recipient (s) named above. This communication is intended to be and to remain confidential and may be protected by intellectual property rights. Any use of the information contained herein (including but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution of any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Ion Beam Applications does not accept liability for any such errors. Thank you for your cooperation.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2009-01-27 at 12:30 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: ...

/etc/papersize still contains letter. /etc/sysconfig is a directory. In /etc/sysconfig/language I changed RC_LC_PAPER= from "" to "letter" before running SuSEconfig. /etc/sysconfig/language also contains RC_LANG="en_US.UTF-8".

You should have something like: RC_LC_PAPER="es_ES@euro" or in your case "en_US.UTF-8". In my case, the above results in "/etc/papersize" containing the line: a4 - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkl/cGUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UzvwCfUF3o0vCsNlfweYLLVdHFmjLq 8gkAmgLJSCXTH8ULTLqKyEvCUS7bcRsP =fs3f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin wrote:

Felix Miata wrote:

...

Whenever I try to print for the first time in a new app or new user, nothing happens if I don't remember to go into the app's paper setup and select the proper paper. It seems this is because I own no A4 paper nor A4 paper trays, yet the system defaults to A4 paper.

In YaST2 printer, after waiting eternally for repo data I didn't ask for to download, I select printer options for my only printer, and driver options default paper in your printer is grayed out and set to A4. How do I change the global default to letter? What mysterious file is set to A4? How do I eradicate the possibility of using A4 paper? Is it even possible to acquire A4 paper in the USA?

Felix -- tisk, tisk

Everybody knows that the master default paper size setting is in kde control panel, under Country/Region & Language, then under the 'Other' tab at the far right.

Find it there and I bet your problems are solved...

Wish it were so but it isn't. The printer settings do not use the setting in the Regional and Country setting (which is automatically set during installation when you select the Timezone). Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata wrote:

On 2009/01/27 02:59 (GMT-0600) David C. Rankin composed:

...

Felix Miata wrote:

...

...

Whenever I try to print for the first time in a new app or new user, nothing happens if I don't remember to go into the app's paper setup and select the proper paper. It seems this is because I own no A4 paper nor A4 paper trays, yet the system defaults to A4 paper.

...

...

In YaST2 printer, after waiting eternally for repo data I didn't ask for to download, I select printer options for my only printer, and driver options default paper in your printer is grayed out and set to A4. How do I change the global default to letter? What mysterious file is set to A4? How do I eradicate the possibility of using A4 paper? Is it even possible to acquire A4 paper in the USA?

...

Felix -- tisk, tisk

...

Everybody knows that the master default paper size setting is in kde control panel, under Country/Region & Language, then under the 'Other' tab at the far right.

Did I write anything about KDE? What do Gnome users do? XFCE? LXDE? Other non-KDE?

That was presumptuous of me, I apologize. Take a look at /etc/suseconfig: ## Path: System/SuSEconfig ## Type: yesno ## Config: groff ## Default: yes # # Update /etc/papersize to get page sizes for groff correct? (yes/no) # UPDATE_GROFF_CONF="yes" ## Type: string(letter,legal,a4,b5) ## Config: groff ## Default: "" # # By default, SuSEconfig tries to get the correct page size # from your system wide locale (i.e. from the system wide value of # LC_PAPER, which is possibly inherited from the system wide value of LANG). # If you want to set a page size for groff different from that, # you can set GROFF_PAGESIZE to the following values # letter, legal, a4, b5 # GROFF_PAGESIZE="letter" -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org