Since the talk about evolution and apt-get came up... Rather nice, got it setup and installed. However, on the apt-get -S upgrade The friggin thing wants to download 763 MB! If apt-get is going to sync my system to someone elses and their install preferences, then I don't want to have any part of it. Rather, I'd like it to only update things that I have installed. (What YOU does... y'know?) Maybe I'm missing something here? Thanks a bunch guys - the last 1000 messages have been educating. :) Glen Goldsmith
Ok, I feel like the dork. Apparently, I have all that crap installed :) My bad.. my bad. Glen Goldsmith -----Original Message----- From: Glen Goldsmith [mailto:suse@hasufin.org] Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 1:14 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] apt-get question..... Since the talk about evolution and apt-get came up... Rather nice, got it setup and installed. However, on the apt-get -S upgrade The friggin thing wants to download 763 MB! If apt-get is going to sync my system to someone elses and their install preferences, then I don't want to have any part of it. Rather, I'd like it to only update things that I have installed. (What YOU does... y'know?) Maybe I'm missing something here? Thanks a bunch guys - the last 1000 messages have been educating. :) Glen Goldsmith -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com
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I've answered it in 1 of faq, at apt4rpm website. Here is comes: This happens when the system has been installed using the packages that have delivered with "the boxed" version of the distribution and the system is then synchronized using the apt server. SuSE is "recompiling" the packages when they are put on the server. So most of the times it only a minor number update of the package. To workaround this leave out the component "base" in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Hope this helps. Op zondag 31 maart 2002 09:13, schreef Glen Goldsmith:
Since the talk about evolution and apt-get came up...
Rather nice, got it setup and installed.
However, on the apt-get -S upgrade
The friggin thing wants to download 763 MB!
If apt-get is going to sync my system to someone elses and their install preferences, then I don't want to have any part of it. Rather, I'd like it to only update things that I have installed. (What YOU does... y'know?)
Maybe I'm missing something here?
Thanks a bunch guys - the last 1000 messages have been educating. :)
Glen Goldsmith
-- Richard Bos For those without home the journey is endless
Since the talk about evolution and apt-get came up...
Rather nice, got it setup and installed.
However, on the apt-get -S upgrade
The friggin thing wants to download 763 MB!
If apt-get is going to sync my system to someone elses and their install preferences, then I don't want to have any part of it. Rather, I'd
Hrm, I must have missed that question in the faq - I read through, I *thought* all of it. Whoops. Hmm, only problem w/ leaving "base" out is then you won't receive any major updates either, right? Sounds like to me, all this apt stuff is just a "free" "RedHat Network". Not sure how places can afford the bandwidth this is going to cost. Ick. After awhile, this is exactly what makes buying the next version of the OS that comes out -- you get release media w/ the latest and greatest w/o all the downloading. Perhaps there is a way to make a setup of "patch" cd's from the /var/cache/apt/archives to use to update after you install a base system... and I can really see how this would benefit large shops. Glen Goldsmith -----Original Message----- From: Richard Bos [mailto:allabos@freeler.nl] Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 5:16 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] apt-get question..... I've answered it in 1 of faq, at apt4rpm website. Here is comes: This happens when the system has been installed using the packages that have delivered with "the boxed" version of the distribution and the system is then synchronized using the apt server. SuSE is "recompiling" the packages when they are put on the server. So most of the times it only a minor number update of the package. To workaround this leave out the component "base" in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Hope this helps. Op zondag 31 maart 2002 09:13, schreef Glen Goldsmith: like
it to only update things that I have installed. (What YOU does... y'know?)
Maybe I'm missing something here?
Thanks a bunch guys - the last 1000 messages have been educating. :)
Glen Goldsmith
-- Richard Bos For those without home the journey is endless -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com
Op zondag 31 maart 2002 12:52, schreef Glen Goldsmith:
Hrm, I must have missed that question in the faq - I read through, I *thought* all of it. Whoops.
You could not have read it, as I just put it in ;)
Hmm, only problem w/ leaving "base" out is then you won't receive any major updates either, right?
Nop. The base packages are being with update packages. These packages are part of the "update" component. A disadvantage of leaving out base, it that apt will not be able to resolve all dependencies. E.g. if you install abiword (apt-get install abiword), it needs the package pspell. This package is only found in base. In this case you need to insert base again to get abiword installed.
Sounds like to me, all this apt stuff is just a "free" "RedHat Network".
Could be I don't know the details of RHN.
Not sure how places can afford the bandwidth this is going to cost.
It does not require additional bandwidth! The packages are already created and downloadable. However, untill recently it had to be performed manually, now you can do it semi-automatic.
After awhile, this is exactly what makes buying the next version of the OS that comes out -- you get release media w/ the latest and greatest w/o all the downloading.
Perhaps there is a way to make a setup of "patch" cd's from the /var/cache/apt/archives to use to update after you install a base system... and I can really see how this would benefit large shops.
I think that "apt-cdrom" can be used for this. Never used it though. -- Richard Bos For those without home the journey is endless
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Bos [mailto:allabos@freeler.nl] Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 1:00 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] apt-get question.....
You could not have read it, as I just put it in ;)
Nop. The base packages are being with update packages. These
are part of the "update" component. A disadvantage of leaving out
Doh! ;) packages base,
it that apt will not be able to resolve all dependencies. E.g. if you
install abiword (apt-get install abiword), it needs the package pspell. This package is only found in base. In this case you need to insert base again to get abiword installed.
Ah, makes sense now there.
Could be I don't know the details of RHN.
It does not require additional bandwidth! The packages are already created and downloadable. However, untill recently it had to be
My understanding, is that you rant rhn in a cron and it did essentially what apt-get is doing. I wonder if the new YOU is going to be based on apt-get? Sounds like to me this would be a real winner. performed
manually, now you can do it semi-automatic.
Well perhaps, in principle this is correct. However, as apt-get gets popular, I'm sure ftp.gwdge.de (or whatever that site is, forgive me for my spelling.. I'm a programmer, not an language arts person) is going to get a lot more traffic. Ick.
I think that "apt-cdrom" can be used for this. Never used it though.
Ah ha. Thanks Mr. Richard! Glen Goldsmith
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Glen Goldsmith
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Richard Bos
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Rikard Johnels
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