[opensuse] Flash is still used today
Incredible. I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-( I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose. <https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html> (no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted) (Chrome plays it) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
W dniu 27.08.2019 o 13:20, Carlos E. R. pisze:
Incredible.
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-(
I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose.
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
(no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted)
(Chrome plays it)
You know what's worse? That a gov website in Poland zus.pl still uses document forms, that are made in flash. And if you run a company you have to fill them, if you don't want to do it using physical paper. Fortunately flash player plugin is still available in packman repo and firefox still supports it.
On 27/08/2019 19.34, Adam Mizerski wrote:
W dniu 27.08.2019 o 13:20, Carlos E. R. pisze:
Incredible.
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-(
I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose.
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
(no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted)
(Chrome plays it)
You know what's worse? That a gov website in Poland zus.pl still uses document forms, that are made in flash. And if you run a company you have to fill them, if you don't want to do it using physical paper.
Fortunately flash player plugin is still available in packman repo and firefox still supports it.
I have just looked, and Flash is enabled in my browser. I have "Shockwave Flash 32.0 r0", yet the site said I need Adobe Flash. And now I open the site again, and the video plays, no problems. What changed? Debug info: { "ns": "yt", "el": "embedded", "cpn": "7bVG6OOuWWodYXkW", "docid": "WE4gB3smDI0", "ver": 2, "referrer": "https://www.youtube.com/embed/WE4gB3smDI0?autoplay=1&modestbranding=1&color=white&frameborder=0&embed_config=%7B%22autonavRelatedVideos%22%3Atrue%7D&enablejsapi=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fcadenaser.com&widgetid=1", "cmt": "4.855", "ei": "EGxlXZPUEIXj1gbV7bLoAw", "fmt": "243", "fs": "0", "rt": "5.574", "of": "mJjxr42xD3jO4OyND8jRQQ", "euri": "https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.h...", "lact": 1, "cl": "265505003", "mos": 0, "state": "8", "vm": "CAEQARgEKiBKVmpsYXZfam82S0FEVWM4VUZzMThaRHE5dFpoWUdQVg", "volume": 32, "c": "WEB_EMBEDDED_PLAYER", "cver": "20190826", "cplayer": "UNIPLAYER", "cbr": "Firefox", "cbrver": "60.0", "cos": "X11", "autoplay": "1", "dni": "1", "hl": "en_US", "cr": "ES", "len": "26.601", "fexp": "23741521,23744176,23751767,23788875,23793834,23796352,23804281,23814811,23816900,23818585,23826781,23828244,23832543,23833166,23834465,23834479,23836965,23837420,23837772,23838574,23838574,23839361,9447856,9449243", "afmt": "251", "size": "433:770", "inview": "1", "vct": "4.855", "vd": "26.601", "vpl": "0.000-4.855", "vbu": "0.000-26.601", "vpa": "0", "vsk": "0", "ven": "0", "vpr": "1", "vrs": "4", "vns": "2", "vec": "null", "vvol": "0.32", "creationTime": 6026, "totalVideoFrames": 146, "droppedVideoFrames": 0, "corruptedVideoFrames": 0, "lct": "4.855", "lsk": false, "lmf": false, "lbw": "2576653.065", "lhd": "0.110", "lst": "0.000", "laa": "itag=251,type=3,seg=2,range=255971-340678,time=20.0-26.6,off=0,len=84708,end=1,eos=1", "lva": "itag=243,type=3,seg=4,range=734905-856995,time=21.3-26.6,off=0,len=122091,end=1,eos=1", "lar": "itag=251,type=3,seg=2,range=255971-340678,time=20.0-26.6,off=0,len=84708,end=1,eos=1", "lvr": "itag=243,type=3,seg=4,range=734905-856995,time=21.3-26.6,off=0,len=122091,end=1,eos=1", "lab": "0.000-26.601", "lvb": "0.000-26.566", "ismb": 8050000, "relative_loudness": "-14.869", "optimal_format": "360p", "user_qual": "auto", "debug_videoId": "WE4gB3smDI0", "0sz": false, "op": "", "yof": false, "dis": "", "gpu": "GeForce_9500_GT/PCIe/SSE2", "cgr": true, "debug_playbackQuality": "medium", "debug_date": "Tue Aug 27 2019 19:44:53 GMT+0200 (CEST)" } -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
W dniu 27.08.2019 o 19:46, Carlos E. R. pisze:
On 27/08/2019 19.34, Adam Mizerski wrote:
W dniu 27.08.2019 o 13:20, Carlos E. R. pisze:
Incredible.
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-(
I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose.
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
(no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted)
(Chrome plays it)
You know what's worse? That a gov website in Poland zus.pl still uses document forms, that are made in flash. And if you run a company you have to fill them, if you don't want to do it using physical paper.
Fortunately flash player plugin is still available in packman repo and firefox still supports it.
I have just looked, and Flash is enabled in my browser. I have "Shockwave Flash 32.0 r0", yet the site said I need Adobe Flash. And now I open the site again, and the video plays, no problems. What changed?
Maybe it was about activating the plugin for this website? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/why-do-i-have-click-activate-plugins
On 27/08/2019 22.14, Adam Mizerski wrote:
W dniu 27.08.2019 o 19:46, Carlos E. R. pisze:
On 27/08/2019 19.34, Adam Mizerski wrote:
W dniu 27.08.2019 o 13:20, Carlos E. R. pisze:
Incredible.
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-(
I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose.
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
(no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted)
(Chrome plays it)
You know what's worse? That a gov website in Poland zus.pl still uses document forms, that are made in flash. And if you run a company you have to fill them, if you don't want to do it using physical paper.
Fortunately flash player plugin is still available in packman repo and firefox still supports it.
I have just looked, and Flash is enabled in my browser. I have "Shockwave Flash 32.0 r0", yet the site said I need Adobe Flash. And now I open the site again, and the video plays, no problems. What changed?
Maybe it was about activating the plugin for this website? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/why-do-i-have-click-activate-plugins
In fact, the second time, I was going to try if I had to activate the plugin, because it is set to ask - but it did not ask. I was going to check if I missed the question somewhere, and then it started playing. I suspect the web site changed the video to something else (html5?), but I failed to find out what. At least this second time the video linked to youtube, embedded. Maybe in the hours interval the video was converted by youtube from flash to something else? Or the news site noticed the error and replaced the video? Dunno. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 08/27/2019 06:20 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Incredible.
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-(
I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose.
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
(no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted)
(Chrome plays it)
Still quite common in weather/RADAR, e.g. https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes (any guess how long it will take the US government to rewrite its weather pages?) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 27/08/2019 22.47, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 08/27/2019 06:20 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Incredible.
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-(
I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose.
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
(no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted)
(Chrome plays it)
Still quite common in weather/RADAR, e.g.
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
(any guess how long it will take the US government to rewrite its weather pages?)
Ok, I get grey background with something like a Lego brick in the centre, and al label that says "Run adobe flash". I'll try click there. [...] Then Firefox asks me to allow flash and whether to remember the decision, then I get the graphics. It works. Ok, this is how it should have gone for me this morning, but it did not or I did not see it. The Spanish version does not use flash ;-p <http://www.aemet.es/es/eltiempo/observacion/radar> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 23:10:34 +0200 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 27/08/2019 22.47, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 08/27/2019 06:20 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Incredible.
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-(
I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose.
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
(no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted)
(Chrome plays it)
Still quite common in weather/RADAR, e.g.
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
(any guess how long it will take the US government to rewrite its weather pages?)
Ok, I get grey background with something like a Lego brick in the centre, and al label that says "Run adobe flash". I'll try click there. [...] Then Firefox asks me to allow flash and whether to remember the decision, then I get the graphics. It works. Ok, this is how it should have gone for me this morning, but it did not or I did not see it.
I get a pale yellow background with an angry blue snake and a No Entry sign. Along with a tooltip telling the name of the SWF object. If I tell NoScript to allow it, the whole thing disappears. I can bring up full size versions of the thumbnails if I click on them. No SWF here.
The Spanish version does not use flash ;-p
Ditto the UK version
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Hello, Am Dienstag, 27. August 2019, 23:10:34 CEST schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 08/27/2019 06:20 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-( [...] Still quite common in weather/RADAR, e.g.
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=1110 1111&loop=yes
(any guess how long it will take the US government to rewrite its weather pages?) Ok, I get grey background with something like a Lego brick in the centre, and al label that says "Run adobe flash". I'll try click
On 27/08/2019 22.47, David C. Rankin wrote: there. [...] Then Firefox asks me to allow flash and whether to remember the decision, then I get the graphics. It works. Ok, this is how it should have gone for me this morning, but it did not or I did not see it.
I'll give you a strange advise: uninstall or disable flash (setting it to "ask" isn't enough). Sounds funny? Let me explain ;-) The funny thing with websites still requiring flash is: Often they don't really require it, they "just" prefer it. As long as you have the flash plugin installed and set it to "enabled" or "ask", your browser will send a header [1] indicating that it can execute the latest attacks^W^W^W^Wdisplay flash. If you completely disable the flash plugin or uninstall it, the browser no longer sends this header - and, surprise, you get HTML5 videos or, in case of radar.weather.gov page, a page built with animated gifs. Therefore: uninstall flash, and the websites will still work - or even work better ;-) There might be a few rare exceptions, but IIRC I didn't see any in the last 3 years or so. Regards, Christian Boltz [1] Actually it's not a header line on it's own, flash is probably [2] part of the "Accept" header [2] no, I won't install flash just to verify this ;-) -- I just started a little project: the openSUSE Spring of Code. It has many advantages over similiar projects, most prominently it's all about honor and you don't have to care how to pay taxes on money. [Stephan Kulow in opensuse-factory] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/08/2019 00.02, Christian Boltz wrote:
Hello,
Am Dienstag, 27. August 2019, 23:10:34 CEST schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 27/08/2019 22.47, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 08/27/2019 06:20 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-( [...] Still quite common in weather/RADAR, e.g.
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=1110 1111&loop=yes
...
If you completely disable the flash plugin or uninstall it, the browser no longer sends this header - and, surprise, you get HTML5 videos or, in case of radar.weather.gov page, a page built with animated gifs.
Therefore: uninstall flash, and the websites will still work - or even work better ;-) There might be a few rare exceptions, but IIRC I didn't see any in the last 3 years or so.
...
[2] no, I won't install flash just to verify this ;-)
Well, I did verify this, because I can disable it easily. I restarted Firefox several times to see for myself, and It is partly true, partly false: in the case of the weather link, the offering is not the same, you can not get a city radar. I posted photos valid a week on another email. So yes, it is true the _this_ site works without flash, but it is not true that you get the same image. If it were, they would remove flash themselves. Why maintain two offerings? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Le 27/08/2019 à 23:10, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
Ok, I get grey background with something like a Lego brick in the centre, and al label that says "Run adobe flash". I'll try click there. [...] Then Firefox asks me to allow flash and whether to remember the decision, then I get the graphics. It works. Ok, this is how it should have gone for me this morning, but it did not or I did not see it.
The Spanish version does not use flash ;-p
may be you should remove flash completely, may be it's detected and then used. I don't have flash and read all these sites (but may be there are other setup I don't see) jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 27/08/2019 à 22:47, David C. Rankin a écrit :
Still quite common in weather/RADAR, e.g.
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
(any guess how long it will take the US government to rewrite its weather pages?)
maps are animated gif, and I read with firefox. Do you have a direct link to what you say is flash? thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/08/2019 08.06, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 27/08/2019 à 22:47, David C. Rankin a écrit :
Still quite common in weather/RADAR, e.g.
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
(any guess how long it will take the US government to rewrite its weather pages?)
maps are animated gif, and I read with firefox. Do you have a direct link to what you say is flash?
https://radar.weather.gov/flanis.swf 0x0 pixels. If I disable flash, I can not zoom into cities. The link above does not show, and I get a region to choose from the USA. Without flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/70989632> With flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/54563880> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Le 28/08/2019 à 11:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
https://radar.weather.gov/flanis.swf
0x0 pixels. can you show where is this link in the page? of course swf don't works without flash. It's to see if the site is proposing an other link when I have no flash
thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/08/2019 12.08, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 11:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
https://radar.weather.gov/flanis.swf
0x0 pixels. can you show where is this link in the page? of course swf don't works without flash. It's to see if the site is proposing an other link when I have no flash
Where? See the photos I posted. I don't know if that is what you ask. The flash image is officially 0 pixels size. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [08-28-19 06:30]:
On 28/08/2019 12.08, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 11:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
https://radar.weather.gov/flanis.swf
0x0 pixels. can you show where is this link in the page? of course swf don't works without flash. It's to see if the site is proposing an other link when I have no flash
Where? See the photos I posted. I don't know if that is what you ask.
the address of the page which provides you a the link to access flanis.swf.
The flash image is officially 0 pixels size.
not relevant -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/08/2019 14.47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [08-28-19 06:30]:
On 28/08/2019 12.08, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 11:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
https://radar.weather.gov/flanis.swf
0x0 pixels. can you show where is this link in the page? of course swf don't works without flash. It's to see if the site is proposing an other link when I have no flash
Where? See the photos I posted. I don't know if that is what you ask.
the address of the page which provides you a the link to access flanis.swf.
It was posted by David C. Rankin several posts ago, and quoted on many other following posts. <https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [08-28-19 08:56]:
On 28/08/2019 14.47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [08-28-19 06:30]:
On 28/08/2019 12.08, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 11:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
https://radar.weather.gov/flanis.swf
0x0 pixels. can you show where is this link in the page? of course swf don't works without flash. It's to see if the site is proposing an other link when I have no flash
Where? See the photos I posted. I don't know if that is what you ask.
the address of the page which provides you a the link to access flanis.swf.
It was posted by David C. Rankin several posts ago, and quoted on many other following posts.
<https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes>
thankyou for saving us having to look thru 200 prior posts for something related to a problem we have not observed but are trying to provide you help. next, where on that page is the link to flanis.swf? there are *many* clickable links and the many that I have mouse-overed, I fail to see flanis.swf or any swf link. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 28/08/2019 à 15:06, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :
next, where on that page is the link to flanis.swf? there are *many* clickable links and the many that I have mouse-overed, I fail to see flanis.swf or any swf link.
not visible if you have no flash, not even an error merssage :-( - see my previous post jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* jdd@dodin.org <jdd@dodin.org> [08-28-19 09:23]:
Le 28/08/2019 à 15:06, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :
next, where on that page is the link to flanis.swf? there are *many* clickable links and the many that I have mouse-overed, I fail to see flanis.swf or any swf link.
not visible if you have no flash, not even an error merssage :-( - see my previous post
well, I do not see it either and I do have flash available in firefox, but *only* after confirmation and , fwiw, do not remember the last time I saw a request. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/08/2019 15.06, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [08-28-19 08:56]:
On 28/08/2019 14.47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [08-28-19 06:30]:
On 28/08/2019 12.08, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 11:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
https://radar.weather.gov/flanis.swf
0x0 pixels. can you show where is this link in the page? of course swf don't works without flash. It's to see if the site is proposing an other link when I have no flash
Where? See the photos I posted. I don't know if that is what you ask.
the address of the page which provides you a the link to access flanis.swf.
It was posted by David C. Rankin several posts ago, and quoted on many other following posts.
<https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes>
thankyou for saving us having to look thru 200 prior posts for something related to a problem we have not observed but are trying to provide you help.
It was included in the post to which jdd replied asking about the link. He deleted it.
next, where on that page is the link to flanis.swf? there are *many* clickable links and the many that I have mouse-overed, I fail to see flanis.swf or any swf link.
Tools/Page info - if the flash is active. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Le 28/08/2019 à 14:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 14.47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
the address of the page which provides you a the link to access flanis.swf.
It was posted by David C. Rankin several posts ago, and quoted on many other following posts.
<https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes>
I found it now on source, but can't figure out where it is on the page it should be between "NWS Shreveport" and "Left click to zoom", but in my screen there is simply nothing there :-( thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/08/2019 15.17, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 14:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 14.47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
the address of the page which provides you a the link to access flanis.swf.
It was posted by David C. Rankin several posts ago, and quoted on many other following posts.
<https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes>
I found it now on source, but can't figure out where it is on the page
it should be between "NWS Shreveport" and "Left click to zoom", but in my screen there is simply nothing there
:-(
The entire map is the flash thing. See the photos I posted: Without flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/70989632> With flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/54563880> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Le 28/08/2019 à 15:57, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 15.17, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 14:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 14.47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
the address of the page which provides you a the link to access flanis.swf.
It was posted by David C. Rankin several posts ago, and quoted on many other following posts.
<https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes>
I found it now on source, but can't figure out where it is on the page
it should be between "NWS Shreveport" and "Left click to zoom", but in my screen there is simply nothing there
:-(
The entire map is the flash thing. See the photos I posted:
Without flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/70989632> With flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/54563880>
but I see maps in the two images. On the page above I have none of them https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_08/IHCotrEp71k_Screenshot-20190828-161823.png jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/08/2019 16.19, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 15:57, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 15.17, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 14:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 14.47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
the address of the page which provides you a the link to access flanis.swf.
It was posted by David C. Rankin several posts ago, and quoted on many other following posts.
<https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes>
I found it now on source, but can't figure out where it is on the page
it should be between "NWS Shreveport" and "Left click to zoom", but in my screen there is simply nothing there
:-(
The entire map is the flash thing. See the photos I posted:
Without flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/70989632> With flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/54563880>
but I see maps in the two images. On the page above I have none of them
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_08/IHCotrEp71k_Screenshot-20190828-161823.png
You have to click on one of the regions. Second row, right end, is Florida, the one in my photos. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [08-28-19 10:40]:
On 28/08/2019 16.19, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 15:57, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 15.17, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 14:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 14.47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
the address of the page which provides you a the link to access flanis.swf.
It was posted by David C. Rankin several posts ago, and quoted on many other following posts.
<https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes>
I found it now on source, but can't figure out where it is on the page
it should be between "NWS Shreveport" and "Left click to zoom", but in my screen there is simply nothing there
:-(
The entire map is the flash thing. See the photos I posted:
Without flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/70989632> With flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/54563880>
but I see maps in the two images. On the page above I have none of them
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_08/IHCotrEp71k_Screenshot-20190828-161823.png
You have to click on one of the regions. Second row, right end, is Florida, the one in my photos.
and again, what is it that you want to have that you do not have w/o using flash? what can you get with flash that you cannot get w/o flash besides security problems? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/08/2019 17.57, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [08-28-19 10:40]:
On 28/08/2019 16.19, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 15:57, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 15.17, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 14:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 14.47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> the address of the page which provides you a the link to access > flanis.swf.
It was posted by David C. Rankin several posts ago, and quoted on many other following posts.
<https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes>
I found it now on source, but can't figure out where it is on the page
it should be between "NWS Shreveport" and "Left click to zoom", but in my screen there is simply nothing there
:-(
The entire map is the flash thing. See the photos I posted:
Without flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/70989632> With flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/54563880>
but I see maps in the two images. On the page above I have none of them
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_08/IHCotrEp71k_Screenshot-20190828-161823.png
You have to click on one of the regions. Second row, right end, is Florida, the one in my photos.
and again, what is it that you want to have that you do not have w/o using flash? what can you get with flash that you cannot get w/o flash besides security problems?
Don't you see the differences on the two photos I posted? Wow. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [08-28-19 13:46]:
On 28/08/2019 17.57, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [08-28-19 10:40]:
On 28/08/2019 16.19, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 15:57, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 15.17, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 14:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit : > On 28/08/2019 14.47, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>> the address of the page which provides you a the link to access >> flanis.swf. > > It was posted by David C. Rankin several posts ago, and quoted on many > other following posts. > > <https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes> > > > I found it now on source, but can't figure out where it is on the page
it should be between "NWS Shreveport" and "Left click to zoom", but in my screen there is simply nothing there
:-(
The entire map is the flash thing. See the photos I posted:
Without flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/70989632> With flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/54563880>
but I see maps in the two images. On the page above I have none of them
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_08/IHCotrEp71k_Screenshot-20190828-161823.png
You have to click on one of the regions. Second row, right end, is Florida, the one in my photos.
and again, what is it that you want to have that you do not have w/o using flash? what can you get with flash that you cannot get w/o flash besides security problems?
Don't you see the differences on the two photos I posted? Wow.
certainly I see a difference. they appear completely unrelated except one is of a larger area than the other. but that is a very evasive answer to my question. but ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/08/2019 20.42, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [08-28-19 13:46]:
On 28/08/2019 17.57, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [08-28-19 10:40]:
On 28/08/2019 16.19, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 15:57, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
On 28/08/2019 15.17, jdd@dodin.org wrote: > Le 28/08/2019 à 14:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit : >> On 28/08/2019 14.47, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > >>> the address of the page which provides you a the link to access >>> flanis.swf. >> >> It was posted by David C. Rankin several posts ago, and quoted on many >> other following posts. >> >> <https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=SHV&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes> >> >> >> > I found it now on source, but can't figure out where it is on the page > > it should be between "NWS Shreveport" and "Left click to zoom", but in > my screen there is simply nothing there > > :-(
The entire map is the flash thing. See the photos I posted:
Without flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/70989632> With flash: <https://paste.opensuse.org/54563880>
but I see maps in the two images. On the page above I have none of them
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_08/IHCotrEp71k_Screenshot-20190828-161823.png
You have to click on one of the regions. Second row, right end, is Florida, the one in my photos.
and again, what is it that you want to have that you do not have w/o using flash? what can you get with flash that you cannot get w/o flash besides security problems?
Don't you see the differences on the two photos I posted? Wow.
certainly I see a difference. they appear completely unrelated except one is of a larger area than the other. but that is a very evasive answer to my question. but ...
Well, one is the max zoom area with flash, the other is the max zoom area with no flash. As you can see, the flash zooms much more than the no flash, they are not the same. Don't you see? Both are maximized, of the same area. Of course they are related. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Le 28/08/2019 à 19:44, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_08/IHCotrEp71k_Screenshot-20190828-161823.png
You have to click on one of the regions. Second row, right end, is Florida, the one in my photos.
and again, what is it that you want to have that you do not have w/o using flash? what can you get with flash that you cannot get w/o flash besides security problems?
Don't you see the differences on the two photos I posted? Wow.
not the same URL... one (the first) is https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php gives the same for me, and https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?product=NOR&rid=jax&loop=yes that gives no big map jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/08/2019 22.50, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 19:44, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_08/IHCotrEp71k_Screenshot-20190828-161823.png
You have to click on one of the regions. Second row, right end, is Florida, the one in my photos.
and again, what is it that you want to have that you do not have w/o using flash? what can you get with flash that you cannot get w/o flash besides security problems?
Don't you see the differences on the two photos I posted? Wow.
not the same URL...
They all come from the same initial url, the one that David C. Rankin provided, then zooming in the Florida area, with Flash enabled, or flash disabled. Depending on having flash activated or not, the actual URL changes.
one (the first) is
https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php
gives the same for me, and
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?product=NOR&rid=jax&loop=yes
that gives no big map
Those do not work here. But there are little maps beneath which you can click to select an area. Right-bottom: <https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php> (non flash) If you click even more to zoom, you get flash: <https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=amx&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes> If flash is disabled, the last zoom on the city doesn't work. Just enable always, or disable always, then click reload on the pages, and you see which are flash and which not and which fail. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 12:08:27 +0200 "jdd@dodin.org" <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
Le 28/08/2019 à 11:52, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
https://radar.weather.gov/flanis.swf
0x0 pixels. can you show where is this link in the page? of course swf don't works without flash. It's to see if the site is proposing an other link when I have no flash
I don't have flash and it still supplies the link, as I already described. If you want to see it, look at the page source and just search for it.
thanks jdd
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On 2019-08-27 04:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Incredible.
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-(
I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose.
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
(no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted)
I find Flash to be very prevalent, even today. With the NoScript addon, I find many sites that won't display basic text and images without Flash and JavaScript enabled. Most of it is sloppy coding. They don't even provide a <noscript> tag. Jon Cosby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 20:29:34 -0700 Jon Cosby <lists@seablues.net> wrote:
On 2019-08-27 04:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Incredible.
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-(
I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose.
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
(no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted)
I find Flash to be very prevalent, even today. With the NoScript addon, I find many sites that won't display basic text and images without Flash and JavaScript enabled. Most of it is sloppy coding. They don't even provide a <noscript> tag.
Could you give one or two examples, since that is not my experience? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-08-28 03:57, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 20:29:34 -0700 Jon Cosby <lists@seablues.net> wrote:
On 2019-08-27 04:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Incredible.
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-(
I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose.
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
(no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted)
I find Flash to be very prevalent, even today. With the NoScript addon, I find many sites that won't display basic text and images without Flash and JavaScript enabled. Most of it is sloppy coding. They don't even provide a <noscript> tag.
Could you give one or two examples, since that is not my experience?
Various radio stations and music artists. This one was giving me trouble last weekend: http://jazzandblues.org/ Jon Cosby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 04 Sep 2019 11:45:21 -0700 Jon Cosby <lists@seablues.net> wrote:
On 2019-08-28 03:57, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 20:29:34 -0700 Jon Cosby <lists@seablues.net> wrote:
On 2019-08-27 04:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Incredible.
I just hit a news site that requires flash from adobe, TODAY. :-(
I'm using a new firefox instance, no plugins yet, so no flash support, I suppose.
<https://cadenaser.com/emisora/2019/08/27/radio_cartagena/1566895744_214802.html>
(no , I'm not asking how to add flash support... (yet)... just saying that today there are sites that still use it. I'm flabergasted)
I find Flash to be very prevalent, even today. With the NoScript addon, I find many sites that won't display basic text and images without Flash and JavaScript enabled. Most of it is sloppy coding. They don't even provide a <noscript> tag.
Could you give one or two examples, since that is not my experience?
Various radio stations and music artists. This one was giving me trouble last weekend:
Seems to work for me with NoScript (and I don't have Flash installed). I do have to enable JS to hear the music, but that much I expect. What in particular causes grief? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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