Re: [opensuse] Question, re hdd size for kernel 2.6.38
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* Patrick Shanahan
After noticing: Jul 19 00:19:32 wahoo smartd[5815]: Device: /dev/sdc [SAT], FAILED SMART self-check. BACK UP DATA NOW! Jul 19 00:19:33 wahoo smartd[5815]: Device: /dev/sdc [SAT], Failed SMART usage Attribute: 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct.
I made a complete backup: wahoo:~ # pvdisplay --- Physical volume --- PV Name /dev/sdc VG Name pictures PV Size 698.64 GiB / not usable 888.00 KiB Allocatable yes (but full) PE Size 4.00 MiB Total PE 178851 Free PE 0 Allocated PE 178851 PV UUID 0E32Pe-jLlc-TmaC-bh1B-FkTI-hclJ-5KjFK6
wahoo:~ #hwinfo --disk 25: IDE 200.0: 10600 Disk [Created at block.243] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_ST3750640AS_5QD11H9W Unique ID: _kuT.dg173GjeJJ4 Parent ID: RE4e.L7HgSFR5QYC SysFS ID: /class/block/sdc SysFS BusID: 2:0:0:0 SysFS Device Link: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:08.0/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0 Hardware Class: disk Model: "ST3750640AS" Device: "ST3750640AS" Revision: "3.AA" Serial ID: "5QD11H9W" Driver: "sata_nv", "sd" Driver Modules: "sata_nv" Device File: /dev/sdc Device Files: /dev/sdc, /dev/block/8:32, /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3750640AS_5QD11H9W, /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3750640AS_5QD11H9W, /d$ Device Number: block 8:32-8:47 BIOS id: 0x83 Geometry (Logical): CHS 91201/255/63 Size: 1465149168 sectors a 512 bytes Geometry (BIOS EDD): CHS 1453521/16/63 Size (BIOS EDD): 1465149168 sectors Geometry (BIOS Legacy): CHS 1023/255/63 Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #10 (IDE interface)
I am considering replacing the hdd with a Seagate SATA3 4TB. Will suse kernel 2.6.38 recognize > 2TB.
tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2013-07-20 at 10:18 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Patrick Shanahan <> [07-20-13 10:17]:
After noticing: Jul 19 00:19:32 wahoo smartd[5815]: Device: /dev/sdc [SAT], FAILED SMART self-check. BACK UP DATA NOW! Jul 19 00:19:33 wahoo smartd[5815]: Device: /dev/sdc [SAT], Failed SMART usage Attribute: 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct.
You have to look at the output of "smartctl -a /dev/sdc".
I am considering replacing the hdd with a Seagate SATA3 4TB. Will suse kernel 2.6.38 recognize > 2TB.
The question is not only the kernel, but partitioning tools. You need to use GPT on such a disk. By the way: "2TB < size < 2 TiB" is no problem. But "size ≥ 2 TiB" is a problem. You could consider instead 2 disks of 2 TB each. IIRC, the price per gigabyte maybe lower. And 2 disks allows distributing the load. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlHqpq4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V2pwCeLEptAAHH/dC1b1aWkHmTQkSi h/IAnRSag+8W+5vRYFHaX0GqfnI6wFbX =IO1a -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
El 20/07/13 11:03, Carlos E. R. escribió:
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On Saturday, 2013-07-20 at 10:18 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Patrick Shanahan <> [07-20-13 10:17]:
After noticing: Jul 19 00:19:32 wahoo smartd[5815]: Device: /dev/sdc [SAT], FAILED SMART self-check. BACK UP DATA NOW! Jul 19 00:19:33 wahoo smartd[5815]: Device: /dev/sdc [SAT], Failed SMART usage Attribute: 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct.
You have to look at the output of "smartctl -a /dev/sdc".
Yes, but before doing that, backup the data, because that's a sure sign of death.
I am considering replacing the hdd with a Seagate SATA3 4TB. Will suse kernel 2.6.38 recognize > 2TB.
Yes. but that's a 2 year old kernel, an eternity in kernel development time (fixes and changes go in at a rate of around 7 per hour, 24/7/365) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Cristian Rodríguez
El 20/07/13 11:03, Carlos E. R. escribió:
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You have to look at the output of "smartctl -a /dev/sdc".
Yes, but before doing that, backup the data, because that's a sure sign of death.
I am considering replacing the hdd with a Seagate SATA3 4TB. Will suse kernel 2.6.38 recognize > 2TB.
Yes. but that's a 2 year old kernel, an eternity in kernel development time (fixes and changes go in at a rate of around 7 per hour, 24/7/365)
Yes, ages/aged for a kernel but the box is from ~2005 and only used as a mail/web server. And I am afraid of bricking the box updating the kernel any more. Currently on openSUSE 11.2/Evergreen with a later kernel (pre Evergreen) than offered/supported. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2013-07-20 at 11:59 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Yes, ages/aged for a kernel but the box is from ~2005 and only used as a mail/web server. And I am afraid of bricking the box updating the kernel any more. Currently on openSUSE 11.2/Evergreen with a later kernel (pre Evergreen) than offered/supported.
You might be surprised. I have a pentium 1 machine with 32 MB of ram and XX gigabyte sized disks (I forget how many). It has SuSE 7.3. The limit is the RAM. When I bought that machine it came with an 80 MB disk. The BIOS does not "support" the disks it has now, but... who cares about the BIOS? Not Linux, certainly :-p So, do try that machine with a modern live version, it might work. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlHrMu4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UiSgCeMmQUNJ6/wj+kxx0BAFA4dvxB OHgAoIzf5nSmUP+4RlP84CJ1B+9FwXqF =vFdW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Carlos E. R.
On Saturday, 2013-07-20 at 11:59 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Yes, ages/aged for a kernel but the box is from ~2005 and only used as a mail/web server. And I am afraid of bricking the box updating the kernel any more. Currently on openSUSE 11.2/Evergreen with a later kernel (pre Evergreen) than offered/supported.
You might be surprised. I have a pentium 1 machine with 32 MB of ram and XX gigabyte sized disks (I forget how many). It has SuSE 7.3. The limit is the RAM.
When I bought that machine it came with an 80 MB disk. The BIOS does not "support" the disks it has now, but... who cares about the BIOS? Not Linux, certainly :-p
So, do try that machine with a modern live version, it might work.
I have already ordered the 2 TB and now must be satisfied :^). But space is inexpensive atm and one never realizes what use a machine may be put to in the future. The 2 TB is nearly 3 times the size of the failing drive which has been satisfactory size wise for ~5 years and undoubtedly contains much data which may be removed w/o causing distress. I am somewhat of a pack-rat and need to put things into a more realistic light. Should have seen me when I trashed hundreds of 3.5 in floppy disks. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2013-07-20 at 21:14 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [07-20-13 21:03]:
So, do try that machine with a modern live version, it might work.
I have already ordered the 2 TB and now must be satisfied :^). But space is inexpensive atm and one never realizes what use a machine may be put to in the future. The 2 TB is nearly 3 times the size of the failing drive which has been satisfactory size wise for ~5 years and undoubtedly contains much data which may be removed w/o causing distress.
One thing is no objection for the other: try that old computer with new disk and and a more recent oS :-) 12.3 might be turned yet in to evergreen... it is a good candidate.
I am somewhat of a pack-rat and need to put things into a more realistic light. Should have seen me when I trashed hundreds of 3.5 in floppy disks.
Ah, me too... I still keep those 100-floppie-backup and some "iomega zips". I want to read them one day and store in HD or DVD, and see what I have in there. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEUEARECAAYFAlHrOjsACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X93ACXY3URrjGCdCJfDc7dLgJRc9sm YwCfdQE+e/9LOcRIUD0n+YvPLPY3Tg4= =z2ie -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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El 20/07/13 11:03, Carlos E. R. escribió:
On Saturday, 2013-07-20 at 10:18 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
You have to look at the output of "smartctl -a /dev/sdc".
Yes, but before doing that, backup the data, because that's a sure sign of death.
He already did before posting ;-) And anyway, that command just displays data, it doesn't run any test. And that data serves to get the details not in the log message. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlHrLsUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Xn0ACfXLYHxl9BRTIXA/LtqIIFJJnP RvcAn1C086zc8kkETDmmPsHubDCbsGHf =yKxN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Saturday 20 July 2013, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2013-07-20 at 10:18 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Patrick Shanahan <> [07-20-13 10:17]:
After noticing: Jul 19 00:19:32 wahoo smartd[5815]: Device: /dev/sdc [SAT], FAILED SMART self-check. BACK UP DATA NOW! Jul 19 00:19:33 wahoo smartd[5815]: Device: /dev/sdc [SAT], Failed SMART usage Attribute: 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct.
You have to look at the output of "smartctl -a /dev/sdc".
I am considering replacing the hdd with a Seagate SATA3 4TB. Will suse kernel 2.6.38 recognize > 2TB.
The question is not only the kernel, but partitioning tools. You need to use GPT on such a disk.
You could also use it without partition table. cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2013-07-21 at 03:12 +0200, Ruediger Meier wrote:
On Saturday 20 July 2013, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The question is not only the kernel, but partitioning tools. You need to use GPT on such a disk.
You could also use it without partition table.
Data, yes; but he wants a system. That means a probable minimum of 3 partitions. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlHrOoQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V5iQCfSGHKwhmLSYxoxCbPHYR5NZWj wQ8An0yMFdDQ3JfQUvPe55YIxSN5LX2m =nzoy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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