Zypper dup crashed. To install on a USB stick failed because the file is to great. I managed to get the snapshot on a DVD. I tried to boot with the DVD with boot priority: 1 ATAPI CDROM: Slimtype DVD A DA8A6SH 2 opensuse-secureboot WDC WD10 JPVX-22JC3TO 3 Windows Boot Manager It refused to install. What can I do? André den Oudsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-02-19 5:37 p.m., A. den Oudsten wrote:
Zypper dup crashed.
To install on a USB stick failed because the file is to great.
I managed to get the snapshot on a DVD.
Numbers. A DVD is 4.7G or thereabouts A USB stick might be 8G I recently bought a bubble-pack with 2 x 16G for C$9.99+tax If it fits on a DVD it will fir on a 8G USB. How much would one of those cost? I bought 64G and larger microSD for my phone and camera and can slide those into my USB adaptor. I think of a running system taking up 10G, so I don't see how you can fit it on a DVD.
I tried to boot with the DVD with boot priority:
1 ATAPI CDROM: Slimtype DVD A DA8A6SH
2 opensuse-secureboot WDC WD10 JPVX-22JC3TO
3 Windows Boot Manager
Eh? When I try booting from DVD or USB I do it from the BIOS But then none of my hardware has Windows. Go back and try from the BIOS.
It refused to install.
Don't you mean it refused to boot?
What can I do?
André den Oudsten
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Anton Aylward composed on 2019-02-19 20:44 (UTC-0500):
I recently bought a bubble-pack with 2 x 16G for C$9.99+tax
If it fits on a DVD it will fir on a 8G USB. How much would one of those cost?
For me, the intangible cost of the physical media is an excessive burden. Negative USB stick characteristics include: 1-non-uniform size 2-non-uniform shape 3-no reasonably convenient filing cabinet paradigm for storing them in some kind of order 4-no place to write on them enough about what they contain 5-questionable reliability (how much must one spend to get what was advertised or needed?) 6-easily "misplaced" 7-rewritability impedes the what, if anything, to do with it next decision process (e.g. keep vs. discard; which recycle bin does it belong in vs. paying a recycler to take it vs. landfill fodder) OM surely have foibles, but I'd rather them than USB's. Attempts to sell USB as an alternative to OM are annoying. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 20/02/2019 à 08:28, Felix Miata a écrit :
OM surely have foibles, but I'd rather them than USB's. Attempts to sell USB as an alternative to OM are annoying.
OM? Optical Medias? readers/writers are no more available on many computers, and overall size is too small for many appications however they are pretty long time life, I could recently read a cd from the year 2000... usb3 pens are extremely fast, an install is much faster when done with them jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-02-20 2:42 a.m., jdd@dodin.org wrote:
usb3 pens are extremely fast, an install is much faster when done with them
Yes and no. You download the ISO image. You can simply burn the image onto a DVD. (Not the files, the image.) But there is the overhead of creating the special image for the USB stick. You want fast? Use one of those disk duplicators that copies onto 24 drives in parallel. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 20/02/2019 19.28, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 2019-02-20 2:42 a.m., jdd@dodin.org wrote:
usb3 pens are extremely fast, an install is much faster when done with them
Yes and no.
You download the ISO image. You can simply burn the image onto a DVD. (Not the files, the image.) But there is the overhead of creating the special image for the USB stick.
No preparation of image is needed with openSUSE images. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Le 20/02/2019 à 19:28, Anton Aylward a écrit :
On 2019-02-20 2:42 a.m., jdd@dodin.org wrote:
usb3 pens are extremely fast, an install is much faster when done with them
Yes and no.
You download the ISO image. You can simply burn the image onto a DVD. (Not the files, the image.) But there is the overhead of creating the special image for the USB stick.
what overhead? openSUSE iso are hybrid ones
You want fast? Use one of those disk duplicators that copies onto 24 drives in parallel.
I mean at use time, when installing (as I do just now :-) jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-02-20 2:28 a.m., Felix Miata wrote:
For me, the intangible cost of the physical media is an excessive burden. Negative USB stick characteristics include:
1-non-uniform size 2-non-uniform shape 3-no reasonably convenient filing cabinet paradigm for storing them in some kind of order
That's why I'm migrating to SD and microSD
4-no place to write on them enough about what they contain
Ha Ha Ha. Nor for DVD. In fact anything with more capacity than a 360K 8" floppy disk doesn't have enough surface area compared to the contents.
5-questionable reliability (how much must one spend to get what was advertised or needed?)
That goes for any media. I recently acquired half a dozen 256G microSD for less than C$10 each. Despite what the manufacturer says, these work fine in all my cameras and phones. But my PC has problems with them until I re-format them in the camera. Weird that. Superficially these as low quality 'Asian' parts. Not SANS or Kingston. But they work. YMMV.
From the PC POV they were !FAIL!. From the camera POV they last a day of intensive shooting and filming. YMMV. Of course you can't write on them the details of the 15,000+ photographs. But isn't that what EXIF is for? (Did you remember to turn you camera's GPS on?)
6-easily "misplaced"
That's why I have a little folder for storing them. Oh, you mean the DVD? I have folders for them, variously organized. Oh, you mean the USB? I have a box with slots that I got at the Dollar store, I think it was for keeping fishing tackle/flies or perhaps screws and nails. But it has lots of little compartments that can be resized.
7-rewritability impedes the what, if anything, to do with it next decision process (e.g. keep vs. discard; which recycle bin does it belong in vs. paying a recycler to take it vs. landfill fodder)
As The Moodie Blues says "I have piles and piles of pretty files ..." Various versions of Knoppix, openSuse .. Various snapshots/backups going back many years ... And keeping the CD/DVD in folders makes for a good way of organizing and labelling :-)
OM surely have foibles, but I'd rather them than USB's. Attempts to sell USB as an alternative to OM are annoying.
It depends. I find CD/DVD great for the 'impermeables' like distribution media, snapshot/backup. if I want to walk in a store and try out Linux on a laptop before buying I'll take a live image on a USB stick. (these days I'll take a type-C adaptor as well.) The reality is that most modern laptops don't have a DVD reader/burner these days. And many PC stores don't even stock a external unit you can plug into the USB socket. But ... I see local stores stocking 2/5" 1T portable drives with USB3 interfaces for under US$50. (The drive is powered from the USB cable, so there is no need for an external power supply. That's fine for connecting to the PC but what about when I want to download from my camera 'in the field'?) -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 20/02/2019 08.28, Felix Miata wrote:
Anton Aylward composed on 2019-02-19 20:44 (UTC-0500):
I recently bought a bubble-pack with 2 x 16G for C$9.99+tax
If it fits on a DVD it will fir on a 8G USB. How much would one of those cost?
For me, the intangible cost of the physical media is an excessive burden. Negative USB stick characteristics include:
1-non-uniform size 2-non-uniform shape 3-no reasonably convenient filing cabinet paradigm for storing them in some kind of order
I use a Twining English Breakfast Tea tin :-)
4-no place to write on them enough about what they contain
I use card labels attached to a string, bought by the hundreds. Amazon has them surely. <https://www.amazon.es/Etiqueta-Rect%C3%A1ngulo-Cart%C3%B3n-Precio-Blanco/dp/B00ESBJTV8/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1550687337&sr=8-18&keywords=etiquetas+de+carton> <https://www.amazon.es/paquetes-etiqueta-azul-hilo-medidas/dp/B00C6ZJI7I/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1550687449&sr=8-13&keywords=etiquetas+de+carton+apli>
5-questionable reliability (how much must one spend to get what was advertised or needed?) 6-easily "misplaced" 7-rewritability impedes the what, if anything, to do with it next decision process (e.g. keep vs. discard; which recycle bin does it belong in vs. paying a recycler to take it vs. landfill fodder)
Electronics recycle box at supermarkets here :-p
OM surely have foibles, but I'd rather them than USB's. Attempts to sell USB as an alternative to OM are annoying.
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Le 19/02/2019 à 23:37, A. den Oudsten a écrit :
What can I do?
did you test the dvd against md5sum? Leap 15 dvd is 3.8Gb, should be good for 4Gb usb pen jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/02/2019 23.37, A. den Oudsten wrote:
Zypper dup crashed.
To install on a USB stick failed because the file is to great.
Perhaps you tried to *copy* the image file into the usb as file. That is not the procedure, it fails. Use the procedure explained on the openSUSE wiki page, on a stick at least 8 GB big. Google "opensuse wiki install media on usb" First hit: <https://en.opensuse.org/Create_installation_USB_stick> alternate: <https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick>
I managed to get the snapshot on a DVD.
I tried to boot with the DVD with boot priority:
1 ATAPI CDROM: Slimtype DVD A DA8A6SH
2 opensuse-secureboot WDC WD10 JPVX-22JC3TO
3 Windows Boot Manager
It refused to install.
That is not enough info. What did you do, what did it say exactly? Or send photos. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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