I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices. I can find no error messages after trying "My Computer". Has anyone had this problem? John
John, On Saturday 17 December 2005 16:20, John Graddy wrote:
I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
By "click" do you actually mean "double-click?" 'Cause that's what it takes to open a desktop icon under KDE. But I can give you the answer you seek: KDE is far superior to Gnome.
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John
Randall Schulz
Randall R Schulz wrote:
John,
On Saturday 17 December 2005 16:20, John Graddy wrote:
I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
By "click" do you actually mean "double-click?" 'Cause that's what it takes to open a desktop icon under KDE.
But I can give you the answer you seek: KDE is far superior to Gnome.
All of my icons in KDE work with a single-click
On Saturday 17 December 2005 7:54 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
John,
On Saturday 17 December 2005 16:20, John Graddy wrote:
I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
By "click" do you actually mean "double-click?" 'Cause that's what it takes to open a desktop icon under KDE. <Snip>
I never have had to "double click" an icon in KDE. YOu *May* if you wish set it to do that in Yast.. but AFAIK it has always been sngle click by default. -- j Xmas in the Caribbean , we've got everything but snow... Current temp outside is 75F expecting 80s tomorrow.. Lookout hammock, here I come !
Randall R Schulz:
John,
On Saturday 17 December 2005 16:20, John Graddy wrote:
I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
By "click" do you actually mean "double-click?" 'Cause that's what it takes to open a desktop icon under KDE.
But I can give you the answer you seek: KDE is far superior to Gnome.
...
John
Randall Schulz
I'm not click happy either. Mine is single click.
I installed all of the software using defaults. I have to double click desktop icons under GNOME. I single click under KDE.
But I can give you the answer you seek: KDE is far superior to Gnome.
At this point, I think that I agree with you. Accept,of course, that "My Computer" in KDE doesn't work for me and "Computer" in GNOME does work for me. In KDE, I can still go to the /media directory and access all of my CDs. USB memory cards, etc. However, it would be a whole lot more convenient if "My Computer" gave me icons for them. Thanks, John On Saturday 17 December 2005 18:54, Randall R Schulz wrote:
John,
On Saturday 17 December 2005 16:20, John Graddy wrote:
I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
By "click" do you actually mean "double-click?" 'Cause that's what it takes to open a desktop icon under KDE.
But I can give you the answer you seek: KDE is far superior to Gnome.
...
John
Randall Schulz
John, On Saturday 17 December 2005 17:12, John Graddy wrote:
I installed all of the software using defaults.
I have to double click desktop icons under GNOME. I single click under KDE.
It's an option. I prefer to have the ability to select an icon without activating it.
But I can give you the answer you seek: KDE is far superior to Gnome.
At this point, I think that I agree with you. Accept,of course, that "My Computer" in KDE doesn't work for me and "Computer" in GNOME does work for me.
In KDE, I can still go to the /media directory and access all of my CDs. USB memory cards, etc. However, it would be a whole lot more convenient if "My Computer" gave me icons for them.
That one trivial thing couldn't possible tip the balance, could it? How often do you navigate to a file from the root of the file system or of a given mass storage device, anyway? It kind of flies in the face of thinking double-clicking is too much work to open an icon to have to interpose so many access steps between you and your files, doesn't it?
Thanks, John
Randall Schulz
On Saturday 17 December 2005 05:56 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
At this point, I think that I agree with you. Accept,of course, that "My Computer" in KDE doesn't work for me and "Computer" in GNOME does work for me.
In KDE, I can still go to the /media directory and access all of my CDs. USB memory cards, etc. However, it would be a whole lot more convenient if "My Computer" gave me icons for them.
That one trivial thing couldn't possible tip the balance, could it? How often do you navigate to a file from the root of the file system or of a given mass storage device, anyway? It kind of flies in the face of thinking double-clicking is too much work to open an icon to have to interpose so many access steps between you and your files, doesn't it?
That does appear to be an interesting issue. On all my SUSE systems the My Computer opens with whatever drives are mounted - hard, usb, CD/DVD. I wonder if there's some wacky setting for this. -- kai www.perfectreign.com linux - genuine windows replacement part
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 16:54 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
John,
On Saturday 17 December 2005 16:20, John Graddy wrote:
I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
By "click" do you actually mean "double-click?" 'Cause that's what it takes to open a desktop icon under KDE.
Not if you set it up to use a single click as I have.
But I can give you the answer you seek: KDE is far superior to Gnome.
I agree here. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
But I can give you the answer you seek: KDE is far superior to Gnome. I agree here.
I don't (no surprise). But you know what, let's avoid another KDE vs GNOME thread and agree that some people prefer one, some the other. They're both fantastic desktops, and you can and should use whichever you prefer. Free Software is all about choice. -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org
On Sunday 18 December 2005 12:27 am, James Ogley wrote:
But I can give you the answer you seek: KDE is far superior to Gnome.
I agree here.
I don't (no surprise).
But you know what, let's avoid another KDE vs GNOME thread and agree that some people prefer one, some the other. They're both fantastic desktops, and you can and should use whichever you prefer.
Free Software is all about choice. --
You Again? James I thought you went off to be sky pilot of some such... Nice to see you back. Anyway, re Gnome Vs KDE, I have the whimpy vintage laptop which I find works much better with Gnome and Ubuntu than KDE and SuSE. So I agree there are uses for both. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
James I thought you went off to be sky pilot of some such... Nice to see you back.
Thanks, never really left, just very much part-time now (training to be a priest in case anyone didn't know). Still packaging for usr-local-bin, maintaining Planet SUSE, and I provided the name for openSUSE's Factory branch :)
Anyway, re Gnome Vs KDE, I have the whimpy vintage laptop which I find works much better with Gnome and Ubuntu than KDE and SuSE. So I agree there are uses for both.
Oh yes indeed. I used to have a half-dead lappie that was much much happier running XFce (lets not forget that there are other DEs out there too). -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org
At 06:20 PM 12/17/2005 -0600, John Graddy wrote:
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I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
I can find no error messages after trying "My Computer".
Has anyone had this problem?
John
You should get a window, with a bunch of selections on the left, for applications, settings, various browsers, etc. In the window should appear icons for drives, maybe other things. (My machine is fairly virgin, at the moment.) I have never tried Gnome, nor do I intend to. The whole interface looks ugly to me, and it has a bad rep on the list, here. Speaking of interfaces, I sure wish somebody would write a clone of Eudora, since Qualcomm doesn't seem likely to. KMail is useable (once you have made the typeface big enough to read) but Eudora is infinitely nicer. BTW: anything that starts with "My" is instantly renamed on any of my machines, especially since I have more than one. Programmers should respect that choice and avoid using such names. What, are we all still in Kindergarten? --doug -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 12/16/2005
Doug, On Saturday 17 December 2005 17:03, Doug McGarrett wrote:
At 06:20 PM 12/17/2005 -0600, John Graddy wrote:
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I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
I can find no error messages after trying "My Computer".
Has anyone had this problem?
John
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Speaking of interfaces, I sure wish somebody would write a clone of Eudora, since Qualcomm doesn't seem likely to. KMail is useable (once you have made the typeface big enough to read) but Eudora is infinitely nicer.
Eudora may be the best email client in the Windows world (and possibly the Macintosh world, too), but it is by no means superior to KMail. More than anything else, Eudora's lack of support for topic threads is a killer. There are some other features it has that I'd like to see in KMail, but I would not trade threads for any of those features. As for typeface sizes, I have to configure every application I use, because they always default to unreasonably large type sizes. And why anyone would put up with serifed fonts for text on a computer display of a mere 100 dpi is beyond me. They're a total impediment to legibility at low display resolutions.
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Randall Schulz
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 20:03 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
At 06:20 PM 12/17/2005 -0600, John Graddy wrote:
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I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
I can find no error messages after trying "My Computer".
Has anyone had this problem?
John
You should get a window, with a bunch of selections on the left, for applications, settings, various browsers, etc. In the window should appear icons for drives, maybe other things. (My machine is fairly virgin, at the moment.) I have never tried Gnome, nor do I intend to. The whole interface looks ugly to me, and it has a bad rep on the list, here.
Some of us like gnome and some of us don't. I like both and use both. In fact when I had 9.3 on my system I used gnome about 98%+ of the time as KDE had become unusable due to slowmess.
Speaking of interfaces, I sure wish somebody would write a clone of Eudora, since Qualcomm doesn't seem likely to. KMail is useable (once you have made the typeface big enough to read) but Eudora is infinitely nicer.
IIRC Eudora runs under wine. If you want a full powered e-mail and news client in one then try Forte's (Free) Agent under wine.
BTW: anything that starts with "My" is instantly renamed on any of my machines, especially since I have more than one. Programmers should respect that choice and avoid using such names. What, are we all still in Kindergarten?
<chuckle> I do wish the programmers would use the same name as the computer's "Host name" instead of my computer.
On 18/12/05, Mike McMullin <mwmcmlln@mnsi.net> wrote:
IIRC Eudora runs under wine. If you want a full powered e-mail and news client in one then try Forte's (Free) Agent under wine.
Are you sure about this? I used to use the excellent - in the Windows world - Forte Free Agent. It was only a full news and mail client IF you upgraded to the full version . In other words it went from being Forte 'Free' Agent ot being Forte Agent. Now, I may be be behind the times with it as I do remember Forte stopping development of Agent about 5 or 6 years ago. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong. If you are not happy with KMail then there is always Pegasus Mail from the Windows world which is very, very good and 'should' be fully supported under WINE. It has a similar interface to KMail. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care this Xmas. PLEASE DON'T drink and drive. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 18:55 +0000, Kevanf1 wrote:
On 18/12/05, Mike McMullin <mwmcmlln@mnsi.net> wrote:
IIRC Eudora runs under wine. If you want a full powered e-mail and news client in one then try Forte's (Free) Agent under wine.
Are you sure about this? I used to use the excellent - in the Windows world - Forte Free Agent. It was only a full news and mail client IF you upgraded to the full version . In other words it went from being Forte 'Free' Agent ot being Forte Agent.
You can Google for Forte Agent on Linux, I'm sure you'll find something. There was a link on the Forte site back a couple of years ago (about SuSE 8.2 IIRC), on how to get it running under wine on a Red Hat system. I've had it set up and running under wine for my wife, in her profile since SuSE 9.1, and I'm running 10.0 now. It does actually behave quite nicely and I have been able to cut the rego number out of Evolution and paste it into Agent.
Now, I may be be behind the times with it as I do remember Forte stopping development of Agent about 5 or 6 years ago. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong.
I just paid for the upgrade for the latest Agent. I haven't actually set it up for myself just yet.
If you are not happy with KMail then there is always Pegasus Mail from the Windows world which is very, very good and 'should' be fully supported under WINE. It has a similar interface to KMail.
I have never used K-Mail. If I can't have Evolution then I'll bite the bullet and use Agent period, and lose all of my contact info, etc. Mike
On Sunday 18 December 2005 00:20, John Graddy wrote:
I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
I can find no error messages after trying "My Computer".
Has anyone had this problem?
I recently had the same problem. Right-click on the MyComputer icon in KDE and go to Properties. On the URL tab, change drive:/ to media:/, then click on OK and exit. When clicked, the icon will now throw up your /media directory from where all mounted drives can be accessed. I don't know if this is what the MyComputer icon is meant to do, but it's a lot better than clicking on it and nothing happens. :) Fish
Mark, Thanks. Making the change to /media accomplishes what I want to happen. Before the change, the URL field contained drives:/. I believe that I must be missing a file or a directory somewhere. John On Saturday 17 December 2005 19:13, Mark Crean wrote:
On Sunday 18 December 2005 00:20, John Graddy wrote:
I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
I can find no error messages after trying "My Computer".
Has anyone had this problem?
I recently had the same problem.
Right-click on the MyComputer icon in KDE and go to Properties. On the URL tab, change drive:/ to media:/, then click on OK and exit. When clicked, the icon will now throw up your /media directory from where all mounted drives can be accessed. I don't know if this is what the MyComputer icon is meant to do, but it's a lot better than clicking on it and nothing happens.
:)
Fish
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 18:20 -0600, John Graddy wrote:
I have recently installed version 10 of SuSE LINUX. I am trying to compare GNOME and KDE to see which I would prefer. When I click the "My Computer" icon under KDE, nothing happens. Clicking the "Computer" icon under GNOME gives the normal display of all of my disk devices.
I can find no error messages after trying "My Computer".
Has anyone had this problem?
In KDE I get a listing of mounted drives. In Gnome's Computer I get those plus my NFS drive, unmounted, but easily mountable.
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