[opensuse] Where does the charge of the deleted mails go?
Hi, Can one explain me if I am wrong or right in thinking the following: We have emails. Suppose someone has at gmail, like: email_address@gmail.com. Does it mean that on the server of gmail.com, some space has been allocated to this address which names itself as "email_address", means which is on the hard-disk space of gmail.com servers, a small block of space? And even when someone has deleted all the mails, even from Trash, where those mail actually goes after getting vanished? Or is it like that the charge of those deleted mails (which was earlier residing on the space allocated on the server) gets neutralized, if it happens, how does it happen? I really don't know if I am missing something or wrongly interpreted this. Best Regards, PM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:39 AM, PM <worldwithoutfences@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Can one explain me if I am wrong or right in thinking the following:
We have emails. Suppose someone has at gmail, like: email_address@gmail.com. Does it mean that on the server of gmail.com, some space has been allocated to this address which names itself as "email_address", means which is on the hard-disk space of gmail.com servers, a small block of space? And even when someone has deleted all the mails, even from Trash, where those mail actually goes after getting vanished? Or is it like that the charge of those deleted mails (which was earlier residing on the space allocated on the server) gets neutralized, if it happens, how does it happen?
I really don't know if I am missing something or wrongly interpreted this.
Best Regards, PM
I don't know what email server side solution gmail uses, but most linux solutions store each email on the server in its own file. So when a email is "deleted", the corresponding file on the server is deleted. Note that gmail first moves deleted files into a trash folder for approx. 30 days, then deletes them from the trash at that point. You can bypass the trash folder if you want. You can still use data recovery tools to get it back most likely, but for traditional discussions, it is gone. fyi: If your question is about what google could provide in response to a search warrant / subpoena, they just provide the existing files. I'm not aware of them ever using a data recovery tool to pull emails which have already been emptied from the trash. fyi: I consult with lawyers on issues like this, so I have a reasonably good background for answering the legal side of the question. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Greg Freemyer wrote:
I don't know what email server side solution gmail uses, but most linux solutions store each email on the server in its own file.
So when a email is "deleted", the corresponding file on the server is deleted.
Or the mail/file is marked as deleted and kept until expunged. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.4°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> wrote:
So when a email is "deleted", the corresponding file on the server is deleted.
Or the mail/file is marked as deleted and kept until expunged.
Okay, I thought (I don't know if I am wrong or right): When there are mails in our inbox (any email domain), the mails are in the form of charge on the capacitors (possibly at server side) and when completely mails are deleted the charge gets neutralized at the server (corresponding to the particular address or block of memory), so deleted mails are expunged completely, okay but does this mean that the particular charge of those deleted mails has moved somewhere? I tried to think very minutely but might be wrong..... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:47 AM, PM <worldwithoutfences@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> wrote:
So when a email is "deleted", the corresponding file on the server is deleted.
Or the mail/file is marked as deleted and kept until expunged.
Okay, I thought (I don't know if I am wrong or right): When there are mails in our inbox (any email domain), the mails are in the form of charge on the capacitors (possibly at server side) and when completely mails are deleted the charge gets neutralized at the server (corresponding to the particular address or block of memory), so deleted mails are expunged completely, okay but does this mean that the particular charge of those deleted mails has moved somewhere? I tried to think very minutely but might be wrong.....
That is a definite -offtopic conversation and nothing to do with email per se. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com> wrote:
That is a definite -offtopic conversation and nothing to do with email per se.
Really, I should have asked this question in offtopic! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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(corresponding to the particular address or block of memory), so deleted mails are expunged completely, okay but does this mean that the particular charge of those deleted mails has moved somewhere? I tried to think very minutely but might be wrong.....
Are you speaking seriously? Do you want to know that? Then get a course in physics or electronics. There is not enough paper here to explain all that, and it is offtopic. Nothing to do with email or Linux. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8RnugACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UJBACeKEeQYwv/byCqawuKvGMN5kX4 PUwAnRNEu95NLbPQEw9P7S23hHKSmLCF =BBVW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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