[opensuse] Trying to upgrade from 11.1 to 11.3
I tried upgrading my laptop from 11.1 to 11.3. The upgrade seemed to go fine, but when the system boots up the desktop doesn't load correctly. It's set to use gnome. All I get is a blue screen with my pidgin window in it, but it doesn't have the normal title bar or border. I have no desktop icons or task tray. Right clicking doesn't do anything. I also had nvidia drivers installed so I thought that was the problem. I managed to get an X session going over vnc (where the desktop didn't work right either). I was able to get into yast, add repositories, including nvidia, and do a full update. Unfortunately it's still at the same spot. Also when it starts it seems to try and start a remote desktop session to one of the servers I normally connect to. Not sure why it's trying to do that. Anyone have any suggestions for troubleshooting this? How can I see what things are tryign to auto load on X startup? How can I reset gnome's settings? Maybe there's something in there from 11.1 it doesn't like. I'm going to try creating a test user to see if a fresh user has the same problems. Thanks, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:32 -0500, James Pifer wrote:
I tried upgrading my laptop from 11.1 to 11.3. The upgrade seemed to go fine, but when the system boots up the desktop doesn't load correctly. It's set to use gnome. All I get is a blue screen with my pidgin window in it, but it doesn't have the normal title bar or border. I have no desktop icons or task tray. Right clicking doesn't do anything.
I also had nvidia drivers installed so I thought that was the problem. I managed to get an X session going over vnc (where the desktop didn't work right either). I was able to get into yast, add repositories, including nvidia, and do a full update. Unfortunately it's still at the same spot.
Also when it starts it seems to try and start a remote desktop session to one of the servers I normally connect to. Not sure why it's trying to do that.
Anyone have any suggestions for troubleshooting this? How can I see what things are tryign to auto load on X startup? How can I reset gnome's settings? Maybe there's something in there from 11.1 it doesn't like.
I'm going to try creating a test user to see if a fresh user has the same problems.
Follow-up, I tried a test user and gnome would not load so maybe it is hosed. How can I switch the desktop manager? KDE is also installed. Any help is appreciated. James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 1/19/2011 4:38 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:32 -0500, James Pifer wrote:
I tried upgrading my laptop from 11.1 to 11.3. The upgrade seemed to go fine, but when the system boots up the desktop doesn't load correctly. It's set to use gnome. All I get is a blue screen with my pidgin window in it, but it doesn't have the normal title bar or border. I have no desktop icons or task tray. Right clicking doesn't do anything.
I also had nvidia drivers installed so I thought that was the problem. I managed to get an X session going over vnc (where the desktop didn't work right either). I was able to get into yast, add repositories, including nvidia, and do a full update. Unfortunately it's still at the same spot.
Also when it starts it seems to try and start a remote desktop session to one of the servers I normally connect to. Not sure why it's trying to do that.
Anyone have any suggestions for troubleshooting this? How can I see what things are tryign to auto load on X startup? How can I reset gnome's settings? Maybe there's something in there from 11.1 it doesn't like.
I'm going to try creating a test user to see if a fresh user has the same problems.
Follow-up, I tried a test user and gnome would not load so maybe it is hosed. How can I switch the desktop manager? KDE is also installed. Any help is appreciated.
James
James, Sorry to see you're having issues, but can you tell us how you tried the upgrade? Did you use YaST or zypper or what? -Matt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Follow-up, I tried a test user and gnome would not load so maybe it is hosed. How can I switch the desktop manager? KDE is also installed. Any help is appreciated.
James
James,
Sorry to see you're having issues, but can you tell us how you tried the upgrade? Did you use YaST or zypper or what?
-Matt
I booted from the DVD. Thanks, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2011 04:38 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:32 -0500, James Pifer wrote:
I tried upgrading my laptop from 11.1 to 11.3. The upgrade seemed to go fine, but when the system boots up the desktop doesn't load correctly.
Yes, I saw this problem on a couple of machines that I upgraded from 11.1 to 11.3 directly. I ended up doing a re-install of 11.3 after this happened as I could not find a way to recover.
It's set to use gnome. All I get is a blue screen with my pidgin window in it, but it doesn't have the normal title bar or border. I have no desktop icons or task tray. Right clicking doesn't do anything.
I also had nvidia drivers installed so I thought that was the problem. I managed to get an X session going over vnc (where the desktop didn't work right either). I was able to get into yast, add repositories, including nvidia, and do a full update. Unfortunately it's still at the same spot.
Also when it starts it seems to try and start a remote desktop session to one of the servers I normally connect to. Not sure why it's trying to do that.
Anyone have any suggestions for troubleshooting this? How can I see what things are tryign to auto load on X startup? How can I reset gnome's settings? Maybe there's something in there from 11.1 it doesn't like.
I'm going to try creating a test user to see if a fresh user has the same problems.
Follow-up, I tried a test user and gnome would not load so maybe it is hosed. How can I switch the desktop manager? KDE is also installed. Any help is appreciated.
You will need to get into the system somehow, liveCD or install DVD in rescue mode. Then mount your root filesystem somewhere. Modify /mntPnt/etc/sysconfig/windowmanager and set the DEFAULT_WM value to kde /mntPnt/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager set DISPLAYMANAGER value to kdm I think you can get away without running SuSEconfig after the changes but I am not 100% on that one. If you have to run SuSEconfig you will need to chroot /mntPnt HTH, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Software Engineer Consultant LINUX rschweikert@novell.com 781-464-8147 Novell Making IT Work As One -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:48 -0500, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 01/19/2011 04:38 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:32 -0500, James Pifer wrote:
I tried upgrading my laptop from 11.1 to 11.3. The upgrade seemed to go fine, but when the system boots up the desktop doesn't load correctly.
Yes, I saw this problem on a couple of machines that I upgraded from 11.1 to 11.3 directly. I ended up doing a re-install of 11.3 after this happened as I could not find a way to recover.
Really didn't want to hear that! Installing from scratch and resetting everything up is what delayed me so long in the first place. Thanks, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2011 05:07 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:48 -0500, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 01/19/2011 04:38 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:32 -0500, James Pifer wrote:
I tried upgrading my laptop from 11.1 to 11.3. The upgrade seemed to go fine, but when the system boots up the desktop doesn't load correctly.
Yes, I saw this problem on a couple of machines that I upgraded from 11.1 to 11.3 directly. I ended up doing a re-install of 11.3 after this happened as I could not find a way to recover.
Really didn't want to hear that! Installing from scratch and resetting everything up is what delayed me so long in the first place.
Thanks, James
I would also try renaming your xconfig file, -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; In practice, there is Robert Cunningham Sr. Physics Laboratory Coordinator /RSO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 17:24 -0500, Robert Cunningham wrote:
On 01/19/2011 05:07 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:48 -0500, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 01/19/2011 04:38 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:32 -0500, James Pifer wrote:
I tried upgrading my laptop from 11.1 to 11.3. The upgrade seemed to go fine, but when the system boots up the desktop doesn't load correctly.
Yes, I saw this problem on a couple of machines that I upgraded from 11.1 to 11.3 directly. I ended up doing a re-install of 11.3 after this happened as I could not find a way to recover.
Really didn't want to hear that! Installing from scratch and resetting everything up is what delayed me so long in the first place.
Thanks, James
I would also try renaming your xconfig file,
I meant to put in my original post that I renamed xorg.conf file and I expected it to complain and want to reset the X configuration, but strangely it didn't. That's when I decided to get the NVidia drivers reinstalled and put my xorg.conf back. Either way, same result. Thanks, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2011 05:41 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 17:24 -0500, Robert Cunningham wrote:
On 01/19/2011 05:07 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:48 -0500, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 01/19/2011 04:38 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:32 -0500, James Pifer wrote:
I tried upgrading my laptop from 11.1 to 11.3. The upgrade seemed to go fine, but when the system boots up the desktop doesn't load correctly.
Yes, I saw this problem on a couple of machines that I upgraded from 11.1 to 11.3 directly. I ended up doing a re-install of 11.3 after this happened as I could not find a way to recover.
Really didn't want to hear that! Installing from scratch and resetting everything up is what delayed me so long in the first place.
Thanks, James
I would also try renaming your xconfig file,
I meant to put in my original post that I renamed xorg.conf file and I expected it to complain and want to reset the X configuration, but strangely it didn't. That's when I decided to get the NVidia drivers reinstalled and put my xorg.conf back. Either way, same result.
openSUSE 11.3 does not need xorg.conf. The X-server is "self/automagic" configuring. Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Software Engineer Consultant LINUX rschweikert@novell.com 781-464-8147 Novell Making IT Work As One -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/01/19 17:46 (GMT-0500) Robert Schweikert composed:
openSUSE 11.3 does not need xorg.conf. The X-server is "self/automagic" configuring.
Automatic does not work in every case. Xorg.conf is optional, but there is no more SaX2 to create one if one is needed. Those compelled to upgrade who have video trouble with 11.3 are probably best off going to 11.2 or the most recent milestone of 11.4 that actually works, which for me ATM is M5. M6 is due as soon as a nasty kernel bug gets fixed. Due to lack of maturity of kernel modesetting in 11.3's kernel and apps that depend on it, I won't be "upgrading" anything to 11.3. -- "How much better to get wisdom than gold, to choose understanding rather than silver." Proverbs 16:16 NKJV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
On 2011/01/19 17:46 (GMT-0500) Robert Schweikert composed:
openSUSE 11.3 does not need xorg.conf. The X-server is "self/automagic" configuring.
Automatic does not work in every case. Xorg.conf is optional, but there is no more SaX2 to create one if one is needed. Those compelled to upgrade who have video trouble with 11.3 are probably best off going to 11.2 or the most recent milestone of 11.4 that actually works, which for me ATM is M5. M6 is due as soon as a nasty kernel bug gets fixed.
Due to lack of maturity of kernel modesetting in 11.3's kernel and apps that depend on it, I won't be "upgrading" anything to 11.3.
11.3 plus the Tumbleweed repos kernel (2.6.37) is another option. Tumbleweed is still pretty small as far as having a selection of packages, but it does have in theory a relatively stable kernel. ie. the goal of Tumbleweed is to be more up to date than a normal distro, but to maintain stability. Read this before you use tumbleweed: http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed And here's a list of packages in tumbleweed. https://build.opensuse.org/project/packages?package=&project=openSUSE%3ATumbleweed Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 19 January 2011 18:04:08 Felix Miata wrote: <snipped>
Automatic does not work in every case. Xorg.conf is optional, but there is no more SaX2 to create one if one is needed. <snipped>
+1 I'm glad I backed 11.1 before installing 11.3 (from scratch.) The new installer seemed to work okay but then I couldn't get any customizations to 'stick.' My laptop-as-desktop has an external monitor attached, plus a wireless mouse and keyboard. The obvious configuration (for me,) is automatic twinview while 'docked' while reverting to only the built-in display when on the road. It seemed impossible to achieve this configuration without first transplanting my 11.1 xorg.conf into 11.3. regards, Carl p.s. to the OP: I've never had any luck with in-situ upgrades, fwiw. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 17:41 -0500, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 17:24 -0500, Robert Cunningham wrote:
On 01/19/2011 05:07 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:48 -0500, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 01/19/2011 04:38 PM, James Pifer wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:32 -0500, James Pifer wrote:
I tried upgrading my laptop from 11.1 to 11.3. The upgrade seemed to go fine, but when the system boots up the desktop doesn't load correctly.
Yes, I saw this problem on a couple of machines that I upgraded from 11.1 to 11.3 directly. I ended up doing a re-install of 11.3 after this happened as I could not find a way to recover.
Really didn't want to hear that! Installing from scratch and resetting everything up is what delayed me so long in the first place.
Thanks, James
I would also try renaming your xconfig file,
I meant to put in my original post that I renamed xorg.conf file and I expected it to complain and want to reset the X configuration, but strangely it didn't. That's when I decided to get the NVidia drivers reinstalled and put my xorg.conf back. Either way, same result.
Well, thank goodness for clonezilla. I restored my system partition from backup and I'm back up on 11.1. Maybe I'll wait until 11.4, but will I have the same issues upgrading to 11.4? Thanks, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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