[opensuse] Xorg locks machine hard in runlevel 3
Boot in runlevel 3. As normal user 'startx' and it works first time. Logout, back to CLI and 'startx' again lock system hard. Only power switch works. It happens with 2 different nvidia drivers, latest NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.19-pkg2.run and NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9762-pkg2.run compiled against last kernel 2.6.22.9-0.4-default. In runlevel 5 it logs out and restarts driver without problems, at least once :-) I guess that 'sax2' problems to configure card (FX 5200), that also locks system hard if I click 'Test' button, have common source. User permissions are not, as SaX2 is run by root. Permissions should not be a problem for root user, unless object that should be accessed does not exist. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
Boot in runlevel 3. As normal user 'startx' and it works first time. Logout, back to CLI and 'startx' again lock system hard. Only power switch works.
It happens with 2 different nvidia drivers, latest NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.19-pkg2.run and NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9762-pkg2.run compiled against last kernel 2.6.22.9-0.4-default.
In runlevel 5 it logs out and restarts driver without problems, at least once :-)
I guess that 'sax2' problems to configure card (FX 5200), that also locks system hard if I click 'Test' button, have common source. User permissions are not, as SaX2 is run by root. Permissions should not be a problem for root user, unless object that should be accessed does not exist.
The 5200 is rather an "old" card and perhaps it would be better to run under the (appropriate) legacy nVidia driver rather than the latest (..14.19)? Just a thought. Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 15 October 2007 11:51:25 pm Basil Chupin wrote: ...
The 5200 is rather an "old" card and perhaps it would be better to run under the (appropriate) legacy nVidia driver rather than the latest (..14.19)? Just a thought.
Officially it is supported by latest driver, and not with legacy, but right now it runs with legacy 1.0-9762. Though, it doesn't matter which driver is in use. I locks with both, and I would like to check with somebody having the same card, or have idea what would be the difference between how it is started in runlevel 3 vs. 5. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 15 October 2007 11:51:25 pm Basil Chupin wrote: ...
The 5200 is rather an "old" card and perhaps it would be better to run under the (appropriate) legacy nVidia driver rather than the latest (..14.19)? Just a thought.
Officially it is supported by latest driver, and not with legacy, but right now it runs with legacy 1.0-9762. Though, it doesn't matter which driver is in use. I locks with both, and I would like to check with somebody having the same card, or have idea what would be the difference between how it is started in runlevel 3 vs. 5.
I have the 5200 on the 3rd computer but it hasn't been upgraded to the latest kernel (for 10.2) so I cannot comment. However, I can add this: I had problems with the latest kernel (for 10.2) and the nVidia driver for the 5500 and the 6600 cards. I compiled the latest driver (...19) for the new kernel and even though the first reboot worked fine and everything worked "according to plan", the next time I booted both computers, after they were turned off, both computers went into a rebooting cycle after each reached the point where the nVidia driver was being required (by xorg). The only way I solved this was by booting into level 3, uninstalling the compiled nVidia driver, doing "make cloneconfig" in the usual place, and then recompiling the nVidia driver (with "sh.....etc). Never had to do this before but this new kernel appears to be "something else". Try recompiling the driver as I did and see if this helps. You've got nothing to lose...... Cheers. - Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday October 16 2007 23:27, Basil Chupin wrote:
On Monday 15 October 2007 11:51:25 pm Basil Chupin wrote: snip> The only way I solved this was by booting into level 3, uninstalling the compiled nVidia driver, doing "make cloneconfig" in the usual place, and
Rajko M. wrote: then recompiling the nVidia driver (with "sh.....etc). Never had to do this before but this new kernel appears to be "something else".
Try recompiling the driver as I did and see if this helps. You've got nothing to lose......
Cheers.
- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. I have two systems with nvidia fx5200 cards. One is a intel P2 866MHZ and the other a P4 3.2GHZ. The P4 has the latest Kernel update and I experience no Hangups. I downloaded the rpm from Nvidia.
x11-video-nvidiaG01-100.14.09-2.1 nvidia-gfxG01-kmp-bigsmp-100.14.09_2.6.18.8_0.3-1.1 Hope you can use this info. -- Russ Linux register user 441463 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 08:23:31 am russbucket wrote:
On Tuesday October 16 2007 23:27, Basil Chupin wrote:
Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 15 October 2007 11:51:25 pm Basil Chupin wrote:
snip> The only way I solved this was by booting into level 3, uninstalling the compiled nVidia driver, doing "make cloneconfig" in the usual place, and then recompiling the nVidia driver (with "sh.....etc). Never had to do this before but this new kernel appears to be "something else".
Try recompiling the driver as I did and see if this helps. You've got nothing to lose......
Cheers.
- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future.
I have two systems with nvidia fx5200 cards. One is a intel P2 866MHZ and the other a P4 3.2GHZ. The P4 has the latest Kernel update and I experience no Hangups. I downloaded the rpm from Nvidia.
x11-video-nvidiaG01-100.14.09-2.1 nvidia-gfxG01-kmp-bigsmp-100.14.09_2.6.18.8_0.3-1.1
Hope you can use this info. -- Russ Linux register user 441463
Basil, Russ and Michael, can you test this: - boot in runlevel 3, type digit 3 on boot menu screen and press Enter, that will bring you in text mode - login as user works the same way as GNOME login - startx this command is is oldfashioned way to start GUI, wait until KDE/GNOME is done than - logout from GUI, it will bring you back to command line, that is also oldfashioned behavior - startx again in this moment I have lockup. If I set openSUSE to run directly in GUI ie. runevel 5 than there is *no* problems. I can logout and login as many times as I want. I tried 2 different drivers, both compiled against the newest kernel, and one precompiled from nvidia web site, installed with zypper (yast). They all have same behavior. Configuration with sax2 works in the same way as above procedure, it starts GUI with info window to change configuration or just OK sax2 selected. I have always to change screen size (if nothing else), so I use 'change', do my changes and then select 'Test'. In this moment sax2 will restart X server with new configuration that includes my changes, and lock up in 10.3. The 10.2 works fine. I use dual screen in TwinView mode. That is also pain to configure as sax2 can't see second monitor, but that is a problem since 10.1. I have onboard nvidia GeForce 6100 LT that is always on due to 'overengineered BIOS' that probably looks for PCI Express adapter, can't see one and enables onboard graphics that I just disabled. The motherboard is MSI K8NGM2 series (emachines T6528). -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rajko M. wrote:
Basil, Russ and Michael,
can you test this: - boot in runlevel 3, type digit 3 on boot menu screen and press Enter, that will bring you in text mode - login as user works the same way as GNOME login - startx this command is is oldfashioned way to start GUI, wait until KDE/GNOME is done than - logout from GUI, it will bring you back to command line, that is also oldfashioned behavior - startx again in this moment I have lockup.
If I set openSUSE to run directly in GUI ie. runevel 5 than there is *no* problems. I can logout and login as many times as I want.
I tried 2 different drivers, both compiled against the newest kernel, and one precompiled from nvidia web site, installed with zypper (yast). They all have same behavior.
Ran my machine through these hoops, and it didn't give me any grief. I'm using the original kernel (I believe, I know I haven't allowed it to update to the latest one sitting in the updater) 2.6.22.5-31 and the precompiled driver that yast installed from the nvidia repo.
I use dual screen in TwinView mode. That is also pain to configure as sax2 can't see second monitor, but that is a problem since 10.1.
I have onboard nvidia GeForce 6100 LT that is always on due to 'overengineered BIOS' that probably looks for PCI Express adapter, can't see one and enables onboard graphics that I just disabled. The motherboard is MSI K8NGM2 series (emachines T6528).
If I had to guess, one of these two things is probably the culprit. I'm running on a very basic older machine (1.2G celeron, no onboard graphics, agp fx 5200) Wish I could be more help, but about all I can really tell you at this point is that my FX 5200 is working. Have you tried downgrading to the original kernel to see if it's causing the trouble? Derek -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHFl1Dg39m4F98CH4RAg7FAJ47wQak2kURU21/oRZYN10+P+K4FwCfcLeJ fwcwHAigscW6sw42JLbv8lQ= =9JPg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 02:06:44 pm Michael Derek Barnett wrote:
Rajko M. wrote:
Basil, Russ and Michael,
can you test this: - boot in runlevel 3, type digit 3 on boot menu screen and press Enter, that will bring you in text mode - login as user works the same way as GNOME login - startx this command is is oldfashioned way to start GUI, wait until KDE/GNOME is done than - logout from GUI, it will bring you back to command line, that is also oldfashioned behavior - startx again in this moment I have lockup.
If I set openSUSE to run directly in GUI ie. runevel 5 than there is *no* problems. I can logout and login as many times as I want.
I tried 2 different drivers, both compiled against the newest kernel, and one precompiled from nvidia web site, installed with zypper (yast). They all have same behavior.
Ran my machine through these hoops, and it didn't give me any grief. I'm using the original kernel (I believe, I know I haven't allowed it to update to the latest one sitting in the updater) 2.6.22.5-31 and the precompiled driver that yast installed from the nvidia repo.
I use dual screen in TwinView mode. That is also pain to configure as sax2 can't see second monitor, but that is a problem since 10.1.
I have onboard nvidia GeForce 6100 LT that is always on due to 'overengineered BIOS' that probably looks for PCI Express adapter, can't see one and enables onboard graphics that I just disabled. The motherboard is MSI K8NGM2 series (emachines T6528).
If I had to guess, one of these two things is probably the culprit. I'm running on a very basic older machine (1.2G celeron, no onboard graphics, agp fx 5200) Wish I could be more help, but about all I can really tell you at this point is that my FX 5200 is working. Have you tried downgrading to the original kernel to see if it's causing the trouble?
Hi Derek, Thanks for testing. I agree that kernel might be a part of the issue. I'll try later stock kernel, as I can't remember what happened before. I guess I was using opensource nv driver and after kernel update installed nvidia accelerated to try out Compiz Fusion. I have to do more testing: - try 32 bit on this box - try 32 bit on another box etc. - maybe complete new installation -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 08:23:31 am russbucket wrote:
On Tuesday October 16 2007 23:27, Basil Chupin wrote:
Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 15 October 2007 11:51:25 pm Basil Chupin wrote:
snip> The only way I solved this was by booting into level 3, uninstalling the compiled nVidia driver, doing "make cloneconfig" in the usual place, and then recompiling the nVidia driver (with "sh.....etc). Never had to do this before but this new kernel appears to be "something else".
Try recompiling the driver as I did and see if this helps. You've got nothing to lose......
Cheers.
- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future.
I have two systems with nvidia fx5200 cards. One is a intel P2 866MHZ and the other a P4 3.2GHZ. The P4 has the latest Kernel update and I experience no Hangups. I downloaded the rpm from Nvidia.
x11-video-nvidiaG01-100.14.09-2.1 nvidia-gfxG01-kmp-bigsmp-100.14.09_2.6.18.8_0.3-1.1
Hope you can use this info. -- Russ Linux register user 441463
Basil, Russ and Michael,
can you test this: - boot in runlevel 3, type digit 3 on boot menu screen and press Enter, that will bring you in text mode - login as user works the same way as GNOME login - startx this command is is oldfashioned way to start GUI, wait until KDE/GNOME is done than - logout from GUI, it will bring you back to command line, that is also oldfashioned behavior - startx again in this moment I have lockup.
Sorry, Rajko, "no problemo" - nothing freezes, everything continues to work OK.
If I set openSUSE to run directly in GUI ie. runevel 5 than there is *no* problems. I can logout and login as many times as I want.
I tried 2 different drivers, both compiled against the newest kernel, and one precompiled from nvidia web site, installed with zypper (yast). They all have same behavior.
Only difference here is that I don't use the ignominious zypper but use something which works - smart, and I always download the driver from nVidia and install it by compiling it against the latest kernel. Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Basil Chupin
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