On 30/10/12 14:30, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [10-29-12 23:16]:

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In YaST the latest installable version of Cinelerra is 2.2CV - and I have it installed. However, on the heroinewarrior.com site I see that there is version 4.4 released. My questions thererefore are:

1. Has anyone compiled this 4.4 version for oS 12.2 AMD64 from source tar.xz - and perhaps the rpm is available in one of those private repos on opensuse.org? http://software.opensuse.org/search

Thanks Patrick - answers one my questions. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 31/10/12 02:33, Ricardo Chung wrote:

On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 02:41:23 PM Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 30/10/12 14:30, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [10-29-12 23:16]:

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In YaST the latest installable version of Cinelerra is 2.2CV - and I have it installed. However, on the heroinewarrior.com site I see that there is version 4.4 released. My questions thererefore are:

1. Has anyone compiled this 4.4 version for oS 12.2 AMD64 from source tar.xz - and perhaps the rpm is available in one of those private repos on opensuse.org? http://software.opensuse.org/search Thanks Patrick - answers one my questions.

BC Basil,

You could get it from PackMan Repositories (1-Click Install or Manual install) Check the link for versions available http://packman.links2linux.org/package/cinelerra

Regards,

Thanks for your response, Ricardo. I was there (packman) a couple of days ago and before posting my questions here. To begin with, the version on packman is 2.2 and the one I am asking about is 4.4. The other thing, when I tried the "1-click install" the other day I got an error message stating that there were no instructions on how to install Cinelerra on my 12.2 system. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 01/11/12 04:21, Ricardo Chung wrote:

On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 01:24:09 PM Basil Chupin wrote: [...........]

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Thanks for your response, Ricardo.

I was there (packman) a couple of days ago and before posting my questions here.

To begin with, the version on packman is 2.2 and the one I am asking about is 4.4.

The other thing, when I tried the "1-click install" the other day I got an error message stating that there were no instructions on how to install Cinelerra on my 12.2 system.

BC I am not sure about Cinelerra "1-click install" issues on openSUSE 12.2. It may be packman mirror temporary disruption issue or not. It's possible to switch to another mirror to make it available? If you already have PackMan repo added you could install it using YaST or "zypper in cinelerra".

After I responded to you my daily updating of system using zypper updated Cinelerra to the latest update which was released that day and so all is well :-) .

Rajko mentioned and added two url making the differences between both versions (Community Version 2.2 and Heroine Virtual version 4.4). As far as I know CV has several features not present on Heroine Virtual 4.4. And time to time the CV is merged on Heroine Virtual version. Heroine Virtual version is only tested on Ubuntu and other distros need to compile from source with no tested or possible unstability.

Hope this can help you to make the proper actions.

As you would have read in what I wrote to Rajko I have abandoned the idea of using 4.4 because 2.2 (the CV) is more stable than the heroinewarrrior version. And there is a lot to learn and digest re 2.2 without having to get tangled up in trying to compile 4.4 :-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 31/10/12 15:09, Rajko wrote:

On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:15:06 +1100 Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:

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Are there any Cinelerra users reading this list or can you answer these vexing questions for me, please?

In YaST the latest installable version of Cinelerra is 2.2CV - and I have it installed. However, on the heroinewarrior.com site I see that there is version 4.4 released. There are 2 versions, original at http://heroinewarrior.com and community version CinelerraCV http://cinelerra.org/ more at http://cinelerra.org/about.php .

Yes, I know. But seeing a version number 4.4 as against 2.2 automatically attracted my attention :-) . Also it appeared to me that 4.4 was more commercially oriented than the Community version.

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My questions therefore are:

1. Has anyone compiled this 4.4 version for oS 12.2 AMD64 from source tar.xz - and perhaps the rpm is available in one of those private repos on opensuse.org? Search will not give you option to look home repos. It did before, but today search for Cinelerra did not list any home repos.

Not many need that kind of software and as you can see from CinelerraCV they are trying to produce version that will work with modern libraries. The original uses its own versions.

I take the view that if you want the best results then you use the best program to achieve that result, and Cinelerra is most powerful. Mind you, you need a licence to drive it but it is well worth the effort to learn how to use it even if it is for doing a simple task as creating a DVD from the TV programs I capture on my dvb card. I downloaded the manual about a week or so ago but being in a hurry to do some editing didn't bother to read it but after spending a few frustrating days I decided (yesterday) to start finding out how to do things by reading the darn thing :-) . I can now see some light at the end of the tunnel. I really should have started reading the manual when I downloaded it because at the beginning it gives a big list of tutorials on how to use Cinelerra. One of the annoying things about them though is that they are skewered towards systems which use Never The Same Colour (NTSC) and not PAL which Europe has (and so do we). The other is that the manual/tutorials are out of date and not uptodate with the latest changes in the s/ware.

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2. I have downloaded the source code for 4.4 but wonder if it is safe to simply use the instructions given in the tar file to compile it (ie, just run '/.cinlelerra'? The tar.xz is for Ubuntu, so it probably needs adjustment.

First is to run ./configure to prepare local compilation.

[.................] Thanks for trying to compile 4.4 but I decided to stay with 2.2 and now won't bother with 4.4 :-) . The CV is more stable than the heroinewarrior version I discovered after doing a bit of reading. And in any case I don't have the expertise to do any fiddling with the config files to iron-out any 'bugs' in order to make a successful compilation. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 01/11/12 23:10, Carl Hartung wrote:

Hi Basil,

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:13:36 +1100 Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:

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One of the annoying things about them though is that they are skewered towards systems which use Never The Same Colour (NTSC) and not PAL which Europe has (and so do we). Just set and forget the default in your preferences.

Thanks for your reply, Carl. While the Settings themselves remain stable, the Format has to be set each time you start Cinelerra :-( - a pain in a way.

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The other is that the manual/tutorials are out of date and not uptodate with the latest changes in the s/ware. There are excellent tutorials available on YouTube. With respect to key / core tools and concepts or procedures, anything produced within the past couple of years will suffice. I found those produced by YouTube users 'vaasnaad', 'dmonteit1' and 'cybridproductions' particularly helpful.

I went thru the list of all the tutorials on Cinelerra on YouTube and captured 2 main ones - one of them being the one by vaasnaad you mention. The problem with them is that either I missed one or have still to come across it but I cannot see any one which takes a project from beginning to end, step by step. But this is now getting off topic re the main reason for this list so I will send you a private message about a problem over which I am pulling my hair out with the hope that you may have already solved it as it seems that you have had some experience with Cinelerra. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org