CND <Admin@Brevsville.com.au> said:
Thanx Frank
I downloaded MySQL the other day but at first glance it didn't seem to have
any
kinda of GUI interface I could use for designing the file layout, which kinda put me off.
You didn't say anything about that... You should look at one of two tools (that I have personally used) for DBA, face and phpmyadmin. I don't know about the former, but the latter is available on freshmeat. The interface is up to you, but I would recommend something written in PHP. Not that I know anything at all, but you have clearly exposed your newbie-ness by requesting a form designer. MS consumer/light-duty products like Access have form designers; Real Work (tm) databases do not. If a pretty form is what you're after, I'd recommend building the database with a real SQL engine (such as MySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL) and then attaching to it with the StarOffice database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, you wrote:
CND <Admin@Brevsville.com.au> said: <snip>
Not that I know anything at all, but you have clearly exposed your newbie-ness
Is that the same as dropping your drawers? ;-)
by requesting a form designer. MS consumer/light-duty products like Access have form designers; Real Work (tm) databases do not. If a pretty form is what you're after, I'd recommend building the database with a real SQL engine (such as MySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL) and then attaching to it with the StarOffice database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's.
But you can download a free version of SO 5.1a from sun.com. PostgreSQL has a tcl app called pgaccess which mimicks Access design tools in some features, but you wouldn't want to develope an industrial app with it. JLK
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Not that I know anything at all, but you have clearly exposed your newbie-ness
Is that the same as dropping your drawers? ;-)
by requesting a form designer. MS consumer/light-duty products like Access have form designers; Real Work (tm) databases do not. If a pretty form is what you're after, I'd recommend building the database with a real SQL engine (such as MySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL) and then attaching to it with the StarOffice database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's.
Hmmm, I like that methadology. Use the sql for back end , and somthing like staraoofice as the front end for the nice screens. StAr Office is a real system hog , what other options are there besides staroffice and pgaccess. Anything that can through together real quick and easy forms ect.. That will keep users from changing everything and srewing it up ? How extensive is the staroffice front end ? What is it script based ? Anyone used applixware witha sql back end ? How is it ?
But you can download a free version of SO 5.1a from sun.com. PostgreSQL has a tcl app called pgaccess which mimicks Access design tools in some features, but you wouldn't want to develope an industrial app with it. JLK
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Samy Elashmawy wrote: <snip>
database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's.
Hmmm, I like that methadology. Use the sql for back end , and somthing like staraoofice as the front end for the nice screens.
StAr Office is a real system hog , what other options are there besides staroffice and pgaccess. Anything that can through together real quick and easy forms ect.. That will keep users from changing everything and srewing it up ?
While I like SO, I have only 64MB RAM on a P166 and SO is slow. If I had a faster machine with more memory I would probably keep it. But, I am removing it, since kmail and kfm do so well and are very fast. I have purchased Corel Office 2000 delux as a replacement, since I already had WP8 and liked it very much.
How extensive is the staroffice front end ? What is it script based ?
You can use SO as your desktop, if you wish. It is a total package if you run it in that way. It has a macro language similar to Word's. You can access the system scripts by using the macro name as the password, lowercase.
Anyone used applixware witha sql back end ? How is it ?
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While I like SO, I have only 64MB RAM on a P166 and SO is slow. If I had a faster machine with more memory I would probably keep it. But, I am removing it, since kmail and kfm do so well and are very fast. I have purchased Corel Office 2000 delux as a replacement, since I already had WP8 and liked it very much.
Is WP Office 200 out allready ?? Where did you get it from. I have wp8 , like it , but cant get it to print in color with passthroghpostscript and the stcolor driver. Weird ?
How extensive is the staroffice front end ? What is it script based ? You can use SO as your desktop, if you wish. It is a total package if you run it in that way. It has a macro language similar to Word's. You can access the system scripts by using the macro name as the password, lowercase.
Anyone used applixware witha sql back end ? How is it ?
Can't help you there.
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Samy Elashmawy wrote:
While I like SO, I have only 64MB RAM on a P166 and SO is slow. If I had a faster machine with more memory I would probably keep it. But, I am removing it, since kmail and kfm do so well and are very fast. I have purchased Corel Office 2000 delux as a replacement, since I already had WP8 and liked it very much.
Is WP Office 200 out allready ?? Where did you get it from. I have wp8 , like it , but cant get it to print in color with passthroghpostscript and the stcolor driver. Weird ?
I pre-ordered. It will be released on 4/4/2000. My WP8 has no problem printing in color to my BJC-620... JLK
How extensive is the staroffice front end ? What is it script based ? You can use SO as your desktop, if you wish. It is a total package if you run it in that way. It has a macro language similar to Word's. You can access the system scripts by using the macro name as the password, lowercase.
Anyone used applixware witha sql back end ? How is it ?
Can't help you there.
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There are a number of form type things around. One is KMySQL (I think it's called KSQL now) that has a pretty interface. I can't get it to work though, because only root can login. Somehow it uses priveleges in a completely different way from mysql itself. Weird. GNOME-DB looks good, but I haven't tried it. Making pretty forms in Perl/Tk is quite easy. There are a few on freshmeat. None are very good, but then the whole idea of open source is that you can make it just right yourself. Cheers...Paul ------------------ Paul Talacko http://members.tripod.com/ptalacko/index.html On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Jon Pennington wrote:
CND <Admin@Brevsville.com.au> said:
Thanx Frank
I downloaded MySQL the other day but at first glance it didn't seem to have
any
kinda of GUI interface I could use for designing the file layout, which kinda put me off.
You didn't say anything about that...
You should look at one of two tools (that I have personally used) for DBA, face and phpmyadmin. I don't know about the former, but the latter is available on freshmeat. The interface is up to you, but I would recommend something written in PHP.
Not that I know anything at all, but you have clearly exposed your newbie-ness by requesting a form designer. MS consumer/light-duty products like Access have form designers; Real Work (tm) databases do not. If a pretty form is what you're after, I'd recommend building the database with a real SQL engine (such as MySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL) and then attaching to it with the StarOffice database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's.
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Well I think some of you missed my point. I am not a newbie, I just have more important development work to do than spend my time learning a new SQl database. My database is simple so a GUI interface will help me get operational fast, so I can spend my time on tweaking my servlet rather than messing wth the database. Anyway.... Chris On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:40:22 +0100 (GMT), Paul Talacko wrote:
There are a number of form type things around. One is KMySQL (I think it's called KSQL now) that has a pretty interface. I can't get it to work though, because only root can login. Somehow it uses priveleges in a completely different way from mysql itself. Weird.
GNOME-DB looks good, but I haven't tried it.
Making pretty forms in Perl/Tk is quite easy. There are a few on freshmeat. None are very good, but then the whole idea of open source is that you can make it just right yourself.
Cheers...Paul
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Jon Pennington wrote:
CND <Admin@Brevsville.com.au> said:
Thanx Frank
I downloaded MySQL the other day but at first glance it didn't seem to have
any
kinda of GUI interface I could use for designing the file layout, which kinda put me off.
You didn't say anything about that...
You should look at one of two tools (that I have personally used) for DBA, face and phpmyadmin. I don't know about the former, but the latter is available on freshmeat. The interface is up to you, but I would recommend something written in PHP.
Not that I know anything at all, but you have clearly exposed your newbie-ness by requesting a form designer. MS consumer/light-duty products like Access have form designers; Real Work (tm) databases do not. If a pretty form is what you're after, I'd recommend building the database with a real SQL engine (such as MySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL) and then attaching to it with the StarOffice database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's.
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Jon Thanx for your advice. One point I did find "interesting" is your assumption that I am a newbie simply because I asked for a GUI. This certainly is a leap of logic, in fact I am no newbie, I have more than 15 years programming experience, I just prefer to spend my time writing good code, than converting databases. On the issue of PHP, personally I prefer to write servlets rather than be dependant on proprietry quasie-standards. But thanx for your tips anyway, it is appreciated. Chris On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:57:21 -0600, Jon Pennington wrote:
kinda of GUI interface I could use for designing the file layout, which kinda put me off.
You didn't say anything about that...
You should look at one of two tools (that I have personally used) for DBA, face and phpmyadmin. I don't know about the former, but the latter is available on freshmeat. The interface is up to you, but I would recommend something written in PHP.
Not that I know anything at all, but you have clearly exposed your newbie-ness by requesting a form designer. MS consumer/light-duty products like Access have form designers; Real Work (tm) databases do not. If a pretty form is what you're after, I'd recommend building the database with a real SQL engine (such as MySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL) and then attaching to it with the StarOffice database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's.
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On the issue of PHP, personally I prefer to write servlets rather than be dependant on proprietry quasie-standards.
Interbase base comes with "Interclient" which is a lightweight fully java based interface that a lot of people use for Servlets. Cheers Phil -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hello, <snip>
If a pretty form is what you're after, I'd recommend building the database with a real SQL engine (such as MySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL) and then attaching to it with the StarOffice database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's.
I can't believe anyone would recommend StarOffice database. I tried figuring that thing out. What a pain. Seemed disorganized if that makes any sense. George -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, you wrote:
Hello, <snip>
If a pretty form is what you're after, I'd recommend building the database with a real SQL engine (such as MySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL) and then attaching to it with the StarOffice database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's.
I can't believe anyone would recommend StarOffice database. I tried figuring that thing out. What a pain. Seemed disorganized if that makes any sense.
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Hello, Fri, 31 Mar 2000, ÷Ù ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌÉ:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, you wrote:
Hello, <snip>
If a pretty form is what you're after, I'd recommend building the database with a real SQL engine (such as MySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL) and then attaching to it with the StarOffice database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's.
I can't believe anyone would recommend StarOffice database. I tried figuring that thing out. What a pain. Seemed disorganized if that makes any sense.
It ain't the whippiest, but for a cheap SQL engine with a cheap GUI front end it's worth what you paid for it.
No it's not. Because I gave up. So I get zero work done for zero dollars. I'm using the spreadsheet for database purposes. Also, I am fortunate to be using a computer with SuSE at work, and others are using Windows. Guess what my boss says if I can't get something done in Linux, that can be done with a few clicks of the buttons in Windows "Maybe you should use Windows." I am very pleased with Star Offices Word processor and spread sheet. But as for the Database, saying "Well it's free ..." doesn't cut it when I have work to do at the office. Because I will get a computer with Windows shoved under my face real fast, as the boss just wants the task completed. George
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have you tried applixware ? it has database in it. At 10:53 PM 3/31/2000 +0400, George Zeigler wrote:
Hello,
Fri, 31 Mar 2000, ÷Ù ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌÉ:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, you wrote:
Hello, <snip>
If a pretty form is what you're after, I'd recommend building the database with a real SQL engine (such as MySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL) and then attaching to it with the StarOffice database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's.
I can't believe anyone would recommend StarOffice database. I tried figuring that thing out. What a pain. Seemed disorganized if that makes any sense.
It ain't the whippiest, but for a cheap SQL engine with a cheap GUI front end it's worth what you paid for it.
No it's not. Because I gave up. So I get zero work done for zero dollars. I'm using the spreadsheet for database purposes. Also, I am fortunate to be using a computer with SuSE at work, and others are using Windows. Guess what my boss says if I can't get something done in Linux, that can be done with a few clicks of the buttons in Windows "Maybe you should use Windows." I am very pleased with Star Offices Word processor and spread sheet. But as for the Database, saying "Well it's free ..." doesn't cut it when I have work to do at the office. Because I will get a computer with Windows shoved under my face real fast, as the boss just wants the task completed.
George
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, George Zeigler wrote:
Hello,
Fri, 31 Mar 2000, ÷Ù ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌÉ:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, you wrote:
Hello, <snip>
If a pretty form is what you're after, I'd recommend building the database with a real SQL engine (such as MySQL/mSQL/PostgreSQL) and then attaching to it with the StarOffice database tools. StarOffice is in the [pay] series on the SuSE CD's.
I can't believe anyone would recommend StarOffice database. I tried figuring that thing out. What a pain. Seemed disorganized if that makes any sense.
It ain't the whippiest, but for a cheap SQL engine with a cheap GUI front end it's worth what you paid for it.
No it's not. Because I gave up. So I get zero work done for zero dollars. I'm using the spreadsheet for database purposes. Also, I am fortunate to be using a computer with SuSE at work, and others are using Windows. Guess what my boss says if I can't get something done in Linux, that can be done with a few clicks of the buttons in Windows "Maybe you should use Windows." I am very pleased with Star Offices Word processor and spread sheet. But as for the Database, saying "Well it's free ..." doesn't cut it when I have work to do at the office. Because I will get a computer with Windows shoved under my face real fast, as the boss just wants the task completed.
George
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