On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 1:19 PM, James Knott wrote:

Greg Freemyer wrote:

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So currently I have both routers in use, but I don't want that. I want to have a single IP subnet so I don't have to face IP routing issues.

I think my best choice is either a N900 router OR stick with the N750 and add an extender unit near the above gear.

Try limiting the N750 to G only and see if that resolves any issues. It could be some devices have a problem with N.

Based on 10 minutes of testing, using the new N750 router in "legacy" mode only does seem to allow all of my devices to connect. I could not do that with either the G router or the N750 in N mode, so this is a big step forward. Time will tell how stable it is, but so far so good. Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM, James Knott wrote:

Greg Freemyer wrote:

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Based on 10 minutes of testing, using the new N750 router in "legacy" mode only does seem to allow all of my devices to connect.

I could not do that with either the G router or the N750 in N mode, so this is a big step forward. Time will tell how stable it is, but so far so good.

When you had N enabled, was it N only or N & G. On my TP-Link TL-WA901ND access point, I can select N, G or B only or mixed G & B or N, G & B. I have to use N, G & B mixed mode, because my phone won't do N. Everything else I have can do N and I don't have anything that's B only. When I upgrade my phone, I'll configure my access point to be N only.

The 3 choices are: auto N only legacy I haven't tried N only. Most of my devices are 2 years old or less. Is it likely they have N support? I was having issues with it set to auto. In auto mode it was horrible for my old desktop and printer (which is new). It has been very good since I set it to legacy. The biggest issue is the Mac Mini would not connect to the G router from the desired location, but it connects to the N router just fine in both auto and legacy. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Malcolm wrote:

On Tue 13 Aug 2013 08:46:45 AM CDT, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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It has been very good since I set it to legacy. The biggest issue is the Mac Mini would not connect to the G router from the desired location, but it connects to the N router just fine in both auto and legacy.

Greg Hi Sure it's not channel interference from other access points around? Are you getting a good connection speed etc? This system has a 802.11bgn 1×1 Wi-Fi Adapter and needed to tweak the router to get 150Mb/s.

Could be. There can be as many as a dozen WLANs SSIDs visible at one time at my house. I'm actually surprised how much it varies during the course of a couple days. I have it set to auto for the channel. Given the number of WLANs that seem to come and go, auto seems like the best choice? Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:59:23 -0400 Greg Freemyer wrote:

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Malcolm wrote:

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On Tue 13 Aug 2013 08:46:45 AM CDT, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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It has been very good since I set it to legacy. The biggest issue is the Mac Mini would not connect to the G router from the desired location, but it connects to the N router just fine in both auto and legacy.

Greg Hi Sure it's not channel interference from other access points around? Are you getting a good connection speed etc? This system has a 802.11bgn 1×1 Wi-Fi Adapter and needed to tweak the router to get 150Mb/s.

Could be. There can be as many as a dozen WLANs SSIDs visible at one time at my house. I'm actually surprised how much it varies during the course of a couple days.

I have it set to auto for the channel. Given the number of WLANs that seem to come and go, auto seems like the best choice?

Greg Hi Else if supported switch to 5GHz? It depends on the signal your getting from the other AP's esp if they are close and on the same channel it may be causing interference. Maybe a scanner program may help http://software.opensuse.org/package/wifiplotter

Maybe a forum thread to catch lwfingers attention may glean additional info... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop up 5:33, 3 users, load average: 0.22, 0.23, 0.14 CPU AMD E2-1800@1.70GHz | GPU Radeon HD 7340 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:13:19 -0400 Greg Freemyer wrote: <snip>

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Hi Else if supported switch to 5GHz? It depends on the signal your getting from the other AP's esp if they are close and on the same channel it may be causing interference. Maybe a scanner program may help http://software.opensuse.org/package/wifiplotter

Maybe a forum thread to catch lwfingers attention may glean additional info...

Malcolm, that's a interesting diagnostic tool. Thanks for packaging it.

Maybe you should push it into factory?

<snip> Hi It is a nice tool, all started from this thread here; https://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/wireless/476398-... I'm guessing it needs to be rewritten for python3 before looking to push.... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop up 9:31, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.14, 0.08 CPU AMD E2-1800@1.70GHz | GPU Radeon HD 7340 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Greg Hi Else if supported switch to 5GHz? It depends on the signal your getting from the other AP's esp if they are close and on the same channel it may be causing interference. Maybe a scanner program may help http://software.opensuse.org/package/wifiplotter

Malcolm, I'm still tweaking things trying to get my setup to be reliable. I figured out 2 things: wifiplotter doesn't handle 40 MHz N comms. With 20 MHz a single channel (C) is used. If 40 MHz is enabled, then either (C+4) or (C-4) is used. Some of my neighbors have 40 MHz enabled and as best I can tell wifiplotter only shows C in use, but not the secondary channel. I grabbed a Android based scanner and it is showing both. 2) There is a concrete block wall I had forgotten about that is part of a lower interior wall. I had the router only 4ft up that wall. I have just elevated it above the top of the wall. I'm not getting any better signal strength but my connection speeds are much better. Hopefully that will mean no more drops at random times. That was my biggest complaint. fyi: I took back the ASUS N750 router and got and Amped Single Frequency N router (R10000G). It was claimed to the longest ranged router on the market a year or so ago. It still could not get through my concrete block wall (that's how I found it actually). Thus my bad mouthing the Asus was probably unfair. My placing the router only 4ft up that wall was probably the main issue all along. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:56 AM, James Knott wrote:

Greg Freemyer wrote:

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I haven't tried N only. Most of my devices are 2 years old or less. Is it likely they have N support?

I was having issues with it set to auto. In auto mode it was horrible for my old desktop and printer (which is new).

That depends on the device. A couple of years go, most new devices should support N, but my 3 year old Google Nexus One doesn't. Also, another consideration is encryption. If you're running N, then WPA2 is mandatory. If you have devices that support only WPA, or worse WEP, then they won't be able to connect. If you configure for plain WPA, then that router is not supposed to have N available.

My old desktop had lost connectivity this morning and I had to reset the wireless in it to get it to reconnect. I'll give pure N a try in a day or two. The wireless device that dropped overnight is a USB transmitter that is G only, so I will try replacing it with a N device. I know what the basic difference between N150 / N300 / N450 / etc. If I don't care about speed, just reliability and range, does it matter what Nxxx I get? Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Greg -- Greg Freemyer On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:20 PM, James Knott wrote:

Greg Freemyer wrote:

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If I don't care about speed, just reliability and range, does it matter what Nxxx I get?

I'm not familiar with those, so I don't know what the differences are.

A quote from the web: == The 802.11n standard defined multiple "streams", or you can think of them as channels, each being capable of up to 150Mbps (theoretical).

From this spawns the N150, N300, N450, N600, N750, N900... meaning MIMO, multiple radios/antennas.

The catch being that most client network adapters have only a single antenna/radio, and are N150, there are only a few N300 NICs out there. With that said, you probably won't see much difference, unless you're using your client devices simultaneously, in which case they may pick up different streams from the router. In other words your router may be capable of N750, but not necessarily your clients, the benefit is better multi-tasking, higher range, possibly beamforming and other advances in the N750 router. == I've bought 2 N routers in the last few months. Both claimed that the bigger Nxxx numbers had better range. The sales guy I talked to at MicroCenter said the ASUS N900 is supposed to have the best range of anything they sell. (It's over $200 for that router). What I don't know is why the N900 has better range. It is inherent to the N900 spec, or is it because they simply build them better since they can sell them for more. Also since the N900 can do 5 simultaneous streams, it is better for a small business setup, so maybe they figure a small business would need more range, so they build it better for that reason. I sort of understand the above, my question is what kind of USB transmitter is going to be the most reliable / have the most range. <research> ... <\research> Okay, I found this N900 USB adapter at Amazon. If you scroll to the bottom you can see they clearly say the N900 has the best range of the NetGear N series USB adapters. Now the question is it costs $50, or I could buy a range N600 range extender for $80. http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-N900-Wireless-Adapter-WNDA4100/dp/B006V72AE0/r... http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-Universal-Range-Extender-WN2500RP/dp/B006V72AH... Anyway, we can drop this thread. It helped a lot to think about restricting the router to G or N or both. I didn't realize I had that option. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:43 PM, James Knott wrote:

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I'm not familiar with those, so I don't know what the differences are. A quote from the web: == The 802.11n standard defined multiple "streams", or you can think of them as channels, each being capable of up to 150Mbps (theoretical). From this spawns the N150, N300, N450, N600, N750, N900... meaning MIMO, multiple radios/antennas.

I am familiar with MIMO streams. I thought you were referring to model numbers. Generally more streams mean more bandwidth, but many devices are limited in the number of streams they can handle. For example, a smart phone might not support as many streams as a notebook computer.

But why does more streams == better range? That seems to be true in both the routers and USB adapter comparison charts I've seen. My only guess is they put better components into the units with more streams since they can charge more for them. Greg -- Greg Freemyer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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