I recently installed SUSE 10.0 on a Compaq PII and the client asked me to install a second HDD. I deleted the partitions that had 98SE on them using partition logic, I used this on both drives but did not format either drive. I then installed SUSE n the master and I never got the option to mount or format the second 3GB HDD. SUSE is now up and running and it sees the second drive but when I click on it I get the error that the drive is not mounted. I think since it was not formatted it can't see it. Where do I go from here to get SUSE to save to that drive???? Second issuse same computer. I downloaded audacity and it came in two packages. When I try to install either one (rpm's) i get the error that it needs the other one. How on earth do I get theis installed??? Thanks a heap -- Gregory D. Watts Poneyboy Certified Computer Specialist http://www.tasana.biz http://www.modestneeds.org
Gregory, On Monday 19 December 2005 09:23, Tasana Computers wrote:
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Second issuse same computer. I downloaded audacity and it came in two packages. When I try to install either one (rpm's) i get the error that it needs the other one. How on earth do I get theis installed???
Specify both of the RPM files in a single invocation of "rpm -i ...".
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-- Gregory D. Watts
Randall Schulz -- Certifiable Computer Specialist
On Monday 19 December 2005 19:23, Tasana Computers wrote:
I recently installed SUSE 10.0 on a Compaq PII and the client asked me to install a second HDD. I deleted the partitions that had 98SE on them using partition logic, I used this on both drives but did not format either drive. I then installed SUSE n the master and I never got the option to mount or format the second 3GB HDD. SUSE is now up and running and it sees the second drive but when I click on it I get the error that the drive is not mounted. I think since it was not formatted it can't see it. Where do I go from here to get SUSE to save to that drive????
YaST2 System/Partitioner 1. Create a primary partition on that disk For parallel ATA drives: primary master = hda primary slave = hdb secondary master = hdc secondary slave = hdd 2. Create a reiser filesystem on the partition 3. Specify the mount point (suggestion: /home2) Then create a directory named /home2/username and change it's owner so that the user can write there: chown username:users /home2/username
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 11:23 -0600, Tasana Computers wrote:
I recently installed SUSE 10.0 on a Compaq PII and the client asked me to install a second HDD. I deleted the partitions that had 98SE on them using partition logic, I used this on both drives but did not format either drive. I then installed SUSE n the master and I never got the option to mount or format the second 3GB HDD. SUSE is now up and running and it sees the second drive but when I click on it I get the error that the drive is not mounted. I think since it was not formatted it can't see it. Where do I go from here to get SUSE to save to that drive????
Any OS needs to format the partition first -before- you can use it. You can use the command df to show what it mounted and space used/available.
Second issuse same computer. I downloaded audacity and it came in two packages. When I try to install either one (rpm's) i get the error that it needs the other one. How on earth do I get theis installed???
rpm -i *.rpm to have rpm work with both at the same time.
Thanks a heap
-- Gregory D. Watts Poneyboy Certified Computer Specialist
If you are going to pass yourself of as a "Certified Computer Specialist" I think you need a little more training in linux first. The two above items are actually pretty much basic items to know. :-) -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 11:23 -0600, Tasana Computers wrote:
I recently installed SUSE 10.0 on a Compaq PII and the client asked me to install a second HDD. I deleted the partitions that had 98SE on them using partition logic, I used this on both drives but did not format either drive. I then installed SUSE n the master and I never got the option to mount or format the second 3GB HDD. SUSE is now up and running and it sees the second drive but when I click on it I get the error that the drive is not mounted. I think since it was not formatted it can't see it. Where do I go from here to get SUSE to save to that drive????
Any OS needs to format the partition first -before- you can use it. You can use the command df to show what it mounted and space used/available.
Second issuse same computer. I downloaded audacity and it came in two packages. When I try to install either one (rpm's) i get the error that it needs the other one. How on earth do I get theis installed???
rpm -i *.rpm to have rpm work with both at the same time.
Thanks a heap
-- Gregory D. Watts Poneyboy Certified Computer Specialist
If you are going to pass yourself of as a "Certified Computer Specialist" I think you need a little more training in linux first. The two above items are actually pretty much basic items to know. :-)
In rare cases (mainly on older Red Hat installations), I have had rpm still refuse to install multiple packages that require each other using "rpm -i *.rpm". In this case, "rpm -i --nodeps *.rpm" solves the problem. "Certified Computer Specialist"... Certified in what? Certified by whom? That's a pretty vague title. :-) -- Dave Parker Utica College Department of Integrated Information Technology Services Data Processing Office (315) 792-3229
The certification is in Windows, I am just getting into Linux. "pass myself" is not a misnomer. I have had several years training in Windows and hardware I am just reaching out to Linux and run it on both of my computers in dual boot and this person did not want to buy another OS and the 98SE was needing to be reinstalled, (beyond even the "restore" for 98,) and Linux was all I had. I do not appreciate what you implied by your comments and it should not have been uttered. You must remember that 99% of training is in Windows and when someone is reaching out to something new you don't cut their hand off. I would bet that you cause more problems in trying to teach then you solve. A good teacher never implies what you just did. David A Parker wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 11:23 -0600, Tasana Computers wrote:
I recently installed SUSE 10.0 on a Compaq PII and the client asked me to install a second HDD. I deleted the partitions that had 98SE on them using partition logic, I used this on both drives but did not format either drive. I then installed SUSE n the master and I never got the option to mount or format the second 3GB HDD. SUSE is now up and running and it sees the second drive but when I click on it I get the error that the drive is not mounted. I think since it was not formatted it can't see it. Where do I go from here to get SUSE to save to that drive????
Any OS needs to format the partition first -before- you can use it. You can use the command df to show what it mounted and space used/available.
Second issuse same computer. I downloaded audacity and it came in two packages. When I try to install either one (rpm's) i get the error that it needs the other one. How on earth do I get theis installed???
rpm -i *.rpm to have rpm work with both at the same time.
Thanks a heap
-- Gregory D. Watts Poneyboy Certified Computer Specialist
If you are going to pass yourself of as a "Certified Computer Specialist" I think you need a little more training in linux first. The two above items are actually pretty much basic items to know. :-)
In rare cases (mainly on older Red Hat installations), I have had rpm still refuse to install multiple packages that require each other using "rpm -i *.rpm". In this case, "rpm -i --nodeps *.rpm" solves the problem.
"Certified Computer Specialist"... Certified in what? Certified by whom? That's a pretty vague title. :-)
-- Gregory D. Watts Poneyboy Certified Computer Specialist http://www.tasana.biz http://www.modestneeds.org
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 22:53 -0600, Tasana Computers wrote:
The certification is in Windows, I am just getting into Linux. "pass myself" is not a misnomer. I have had several years training in Windows and hardware I am just reaching out to Linux and run it on both of my computers in dual boot and this person did not want to buy another OS and the 98SE was needing to be reinstalled, (beyond even the "restore" for 98,) and Linux was all I had. I do not appreciate what you implied by your comments and it should not have been uttered. You must remember that 99% of training is in Windows and when someone is reaching out to something new you don't cut their hand off. I would bet that you cause more problems in trying to teach then you solve. A good teacher never implies what you just did.
Then perhaps you should change your sig to read "Certified Windows Specialist" instead which would make more sense. I didn't mean to imply that you had -no- training, just very little in linux. Reaching out shows that you like what you see which is another less expensive choice to offer to potential customers. It just makes you look bad when people ask for your help on linux and seeing "Certified Computer Specialist" in you sig and not having an answer makes not only you look bad but linux as well. Stay with the list there are a great many people from all walks of life that can help in almost any problem that comes up. I have been using *nix for over 15 years but by no means does that make me an expert, I just happen to know more than some people that claim to be experts (not meaning you). It just takes experience which you cannot gain by reading a book. A book provides knowledge not experience. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
I agree Ken about the book part, my first computer was a TRS Basic 80 and I tought myself to program in Basic Currently I am learrning C+ and SQL, and I am going to attempt to do Linux packages. I donwloaded SUSE 10.0 about 3 months ago and have spent hours on trying to master it. I stll have a lot to learn with Linux, The client in question is a good friend of mine that I have know for over 20 years he knows my training is in Windows and I am still learning Linux in fact I told him thus much. I do not think I would install it on someones computer I do not know because as you pointed out I would not look too good and I agree with that at the current time. Once I learn Linux well I will install it on other computers. The primary reason I wanted to install Linux on his computer is because it is his sons and I know where his son goes on the net and he needs all the protection he can get. When I cleaned up his Dell running XP I was shocked by the amount of spyware over 10,000 diffrent entries adn the porn was out of this world. I felt Linux was the safer of the two since he refuses to stop, he lies to his dad of course, his dad has grounded him several times from the computer, and right now he told me not to set up a LAN until he can trust his son, so he has no internet on the Linux system. But if you read my reply to David you can see why I went off the side of the ship before it hit the burge. Ken Schneider wrote:
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 22:53 -0600, Tasana Computers wrote:
The certification is in Windows, I am just getting into Linux. "pass myself" is not a misnomer. I have had several years training in Windows and hardware I am just reaching out to Linux and run it on both of my computers in dual boot and this person did not want to buy another OS and the 98SE was needing to be reinstalled, (beyond even the "restore" for 98,) and Linux was all I had. I do not appreciate what you implied by your comments and it should not have been uttered. You must remember that 99% of training is in Windows and when someone is reaching out to something new you don't cut their hand off. I would bet that you cause more problems in trying to teach then you solve. A good teacher never implies what you just did.
Then perhaps you should change your sig to read "Certified Windows Specialist" instead which would make more sense. I didn't mean to imply that you had -no- training, just very little in linux. Reaching out shows that you like what you see which is another less expensive choice to offer to potential customers. It just makes you look bad when people ask for your help on linux and seeing "Certified Computer Specialist" in you sig and not having an answer makes not only you look bad but linux as well. Stay with the list there are a great many people from all walks of life that can help in almost any problem that comes up. I have been using *nix for over 15 years but by no means does that make me an expert, I just happen to know more than some people that claim to be experts (not meaning you). It just takes experience which you cannot gain by reading a book. A book provides knowledge not experience.
-- Gregory D. Watts Poneyboy Certified Computer Specialist http://www.tasana.biz http://www.modestneeds.org
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 09:24, David A. Parker wrote:
In rare cases (mainly on older Red Hat installations), I have had rpm still refuse to install multiple packages that require each other using "rpm -i *.rpm". In this case, "rpm -i --nodeps *.rpm" solves the problem.
"Certified Computer Specialist"... Certified in what? Certified by whom? That's a pretty vague title. :-)
I know what "certifiable" implies. Sometimes, I even think people who go out of their way to find and tackle enduser computer problems fit /that/ bill... ;-) Anyway, Gregory, since Silviu succinctly handled the partitioning issue, here's some advice on rpm: When you're using command line rpm, it's a good idea to put the .rpm packages you want to install in a directory by themselves and issue, as root/su: "rpm -Uhv *.rpm --test" (no quotes, of course) This will pretend to upgrade those packages where previous versions are already installed and also pretend to install the packages that are new. It will not write any changes to disk, however, merely give you feedback about any problems or conflicts that it encounters. The above process is iterative, meaning you dump the packages into the directory, run the test, read the errors, act on the errors (usually add/remove .rpms in the working directory) and then test again. When you reach the point where there are no errors reported, the text-based progress bars will complete to 100% and rpm will just dump you back to a command prompt. You then have the pleasure of using your 'up' arrow, deleting the '--test' parameter and issuing the real command to perform the real installation. Note: Sometimes, especially if it's only one or a few packages, you get lucky on the first test and don't see any errors. Finally, please don't forget to run 'SuSEconfig' and 'ldconfig' immediately after installing the packages. HTH & regards, - Carl
My certifications are from the state of TN, I hold one certification and one degree. Man you guys are really mean on this list. Read my other answer to the other guy who implied the same you just did. 99% of training is in Windows, I am just learning Linux. Get a life and quite pointing fingers remember 3 are pointing back at you. This is a mean list, the reason for list like these is to help those learn a new field. if this list has people on it like this the list owner unsub me I don't need this kind of garbage tossed at me. Really you and David need to get out more. Linux does not come with the Windows package, infact when I was in training we had all of two small chapters on Linux. This is making me upset. Carl Hartung wrote:
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 09:24, David A. Parker wrote:
In rare cases (mainly on older Red Hat installations), I have had rpm still refuse to install multiple packages that require each other using "rpm -i *.rpm". In this case, "rpm -i --nodeps *.rpm" solves the problem.
"Certified Computer Specialist"... Certified in what? Certified by whom? That's a pretty vague title. :-)
-- Gregory D. Watts Poneyboy Certified Computer Specialist http://www.tasana.biz http://www.modestneeds.org
* Tasana Computers <poneyboy@twlakes.net> [12-21-05 12:03]:
Linux does not come with the Windows package, infact when I was in training we had all of two small chapters on Linux.
So your training was somewhat deficient. There is MUCH more to computers than windoz. In fact, more beneficial understanding would have come from two small chapters on windoz and the rest on ANYTHING else.
This is making me upset.
Best get over that! -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Tasana Computers <poneyboy@twlakes.net> [12-21-05 12:03]:
Linux does not come with the Windows package, infact when I was in training we had all of two small chapters on Linux.
So your training was somewhat deficient. There is MUCH more to computers than windoz. In fact, more beneficial understanding would have come from two small chapters on windoz and the rest on ANYTHING else.
Well believe it our not those two little chapters stured my interest, if not for those chapters I would never had downloaded Linux, I had to see it for myself. The other in class failed those chapters, but to my surprise I studied as hard as I could adn played around with Linux and I made 98% on both, my instructor was flooried and so was everyone else. I was an A student and everyone knew I would flunk those two test. I'm not stroking my own ego just pointing out that I fell in love and I knew it to be good. The only problem I am currently having with Linux on the laptop is it hates my Dell 1315, I found a market driver for it and it works but I dont want to pay for it so I am going to buy a compatable card. ndiswrapper can't seem to get it going, so for now when I run Linux on it I have to be teathered.
-- Gregory D. Watts Poneyboy Certified Computer Specialist http://www.tasana.biz http://www.modestneeds.org
On Monday 19 December 2005 23:52, Tasana Computers wrote:
My certifications are from the state of TN... <snippage>
The only joke I made was this one, Gregory:
I know what "certifiable" implies. Sometimes, I even think people who go out of their way to find and tackle enduser computer problems fit /that/ bill... ;-)
It targets no one in particular and is even self-effacing, meaning I also fit into the category that is the butt of the joke... I was being *friendly* not "mean". Moreover, I followed up with some decent advice. The least you could have done was quote me correctly and attribute the "mean" response to the correct party. Anyway, I don't think David was intending to be mean. He's right. "Certified Computer Specialist" asserts a certification without citing a certificate or the authority granting it. It isn't just vague, it's vacuous... completely devoid of any meaning at all. I think he's doing you a favor by pointing it out. It would look better and possibly be better for your business if you cited a specific certification. regards, - Carl Sun Microsystems Competency 2000 Certified 1996 OKI Advanced Communications Certified Cellular Technician (Self-Certified Linux Nut)
Carl Hartung wrote:
On Monday 19 December 2005 23:52, Tasana Computers wrote:
My certifications are from the state of TN...
<snippage>
The only joke I made was this one, Gregory:
I know what "certifiable" implies. Sometimes, I even think people who go out of their way to find and tackle enduser computer problems fit /that/ bill... ;-)
It targets no one in particular and is even self-effacing, meaning I also fit into the category that is the butt of the joke... I was being *friendly* not "mean".
Moreover, I followed up with some decent advice. The least you could have done was quote me correctly and attribute the "mean" response to the correct party.
Anyway, I don't think David was intending to be mean. He's right. "Certified Computer Specialist" asserts a certification without citing a certificate or the authority granting it. It isn't just vague, it's vacuous... completely devoid of any meaning at all. I think he's doing you a favor by pointing it out. It would look better and possibly be better for your business if you cited a specific certification.
regards,
- Carl Sun Microsystems Competency 2000 Certified 1996 OKI Advanced Communications Certified Cellular Technician (Self-Certified Linux Nut)
I am sorry Carl if I missed the point of the joke. I tend to take thing seriously. As to the tag I agree with you and do plan to update it. the reason it says what it says right now is due to the fact that my certifications come form Tennessee and not CompTia. I am going to take my test after income tax time and then will add A+ NET+ to the other two. The issue is most around where I live have no clue as to what all that means. I have tried to explain to some and the only question they ask is are you certified? they have no idea what A+ NET+ CompTia or a degree from Tennessee means. the end user just wants to see certified thats all. the tag is for their benefit and not other techs. I am not trying to impress anyone just make a statement. I believe in simple not flashy. -- Gregory D. Watts Poneyboy Certified Computer Specialist http://www.tasana.biz http://www.modestneeds.org
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 11:29, Tasana Computers wrote:
I am sorry Carl if I missed the point of the joke. I tend to take thing seriously.
Not a problem, Gregory. Just clarifying I was laughing 'with' you not 'at' you...
As to the tag I agree with you and do plan to update it.
Enough said. Your explanation makes sense and is simple, so we'll leave it at that. Besides, that's /your/ business, not ours... Did you solve your problem, btw? - Carl PS: Please clear out any direct e-mail addresses from the cc: field and post your replies only to the list address (suse-linux-e@suse.com). People who subscribe to the list receive your replies from the list and don't need a second copy sent to them directly. Thanks!
Enough said. Your explanation makes sense and is simple, so we'll leave it at that. Besides, that's /your/ business, not ours...
Did you solve your problem, btw?
- Carl
Not yet, I got back late from another call tonight and the guy worked late yesterday. He is going south on xmas eve to help rebuild so it will be the 2nd before I can get back to it. -- Gregory D. Watts Poneyboy Certified Computer Specialist http://www.tasana.biz http://www.modestneeds.org
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 13:27, Tasana Computers wrote:
Not yet, I got back late from another call tonight and the guy worked late yesterday. He is going south on xmas eve to help rebuild so it will be the 2nd before I can get back to it.
OK, Gregory, you know where we're at if you have more questions. And sorry things got off on the wrong foot. The people here are generally very nice and helpful... even the crabby ones mean well (and you all know who you are!) ;-) Try not to take anything personally, since no one here knows you personally, right? regards, - Carl PS: Thank you! I only got one copy this time. Excellent!
I don't think you're going to get anywhere being reasonable with this guy - look at the way he signs his emails with a handle and check his web pages. Another graduate of joes pawnshop and school of computer programming. Mike- -- Mornings: Evolution in action. Only the grumpy will survive. -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments.
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I don't think you're going to get anywhere being reasonable with this guy - look at the way he signs his emails with a handle and check his web pages. Another graduate of joes pawnshop and school of computer programming.
Mike-
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If this is aimed at me I say this to you. The tag Poneyboy has meaning from my childhood and holds special meaning. Someone once said better to keep quiet and let people think you are a fool then open your mouth and prove them right, well you opened your mouth. "Joes Pawnshop" are you for real? I spent real time in Tennessee's colleges. And my web pages? my site www.tasana.biz is just something low budget and done in my spare time, it is not meant to be flashy, just to inform. So far my clients have been impressed by the fact that I keep things simple, in fact I have had several tell me that by doing what I am doing it keeps my overhead low thus keeping prices low. as for the link www.modestneeds.org it is an org I give money to on a monthly basis to assist people in need. are you really that big of a person that it is beneath you to assist others in need? Cast your bread upon the water and see if it dont came back to you two fold, but in your case since you dont case you will be in the soup line at the shelter or digging out of trash cans. It is good that I am restrained in my comments but you need to grow up, and open your eyes, simple sells and helping others benefits yourself as well as others. I really feel sorry for you, you will end up lonely, old and begging for help on the street. -- Gregory D. Watts Poneyboy Certified Computer Specialist http://www.tasana.biz http://www.modestneeds.org
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