[opensuse] Need suggestions on email server setup
I am wanting to set up an email server, this is my first ever attempt, and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on programs to use, ways to set it up. I have the SUSE Linux Bible for SUSE 9.1, bought it from a local bookstore when I first started Linux, and it talks about Postix, Qpopper, and Cyrus but I was wondering if there are better programs now then there was back when that book was written. Thanks in advance!
Hi Adam, On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Adam Jimerson <vendion@charter.net> wrote:
I am wanting to set up an email server, this is my first ever attempt, and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on programs to use, ways to set it up. I have the SUSE Linux Bible for SUSE 9.1, bought it from a local bookstore when I first started Linux, and it talks about Postix, Qpopper, and Cyrus but I was wondering if there are better programs now then there was back when that book was written.
Currenly I'm using Zimbra Mail Server 5.0.4 on OpenSUSE 10.3 and I'm quite satisfied with it's feature and capability. I have written a short description how to install Zimbra Mail Server on OpenSUSE 10.3 [0] [1]. I also created a small script (written in Bahasa Indonesia, will try to translate into English version for next few days. Hope I can make it today) What make me feel happy with Zimbra is it's integrated feature for powerful mail server and collaboration suite. You just need I process install to get a running mail server with smtp, pop, imap, webmail, antispam and antivirus, rather than setting up a portion of mail server component using postfxi/qmail, imap, etc Please feel free to drop any question related deploying Zimbra on OpenSUSE. Zimbra implementation on OpenSUSE is our hot topic here in Indonesian OpenSUSE community [2]. [0] : http://www.vavai.net/index.php?/archives/15-Zimbra-Installation-on-OpenSUSE-... [1] : http://www.zimbra.com/forums/installation/16457-installing-zcs-5-0-x-opensus... [2] : http://www.opensuse.or.id -- Best Regards, Masim "Vavai" Sugianto /************************************************************/ Blog (ID) : http://www.vavai.com/blog/index.php Blog (EN) : http://www.vavai.net Community : http://www.opensuse.or.id /************************************************************/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Masim "Vavai" Sugianto wrote:
Currenly I'm using Zimbra Mail Server 5.0.4 on OpenSUSE 10.3 and I'm quite satisfied with it's feature and capability. I have written a short description how to install Zimbra Mail Server on OpenSUSE 10.3 [0] [1]. I also created a small script (written in Bahasa Indonesia, will try to translate into English version for next few days. Hope I can make it today)
Thanks for the tip, last time I looked at zimbra it was rather redhat centric, and did not play well with suse. I'll check out your writeup and give it another try. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 09:09 +0700, Masim "Vavai" Sugianto wrote:
Currenly I'm using Zimbra Mail Server 5.0.4 on OpenSUSE 10.3 and I'm quite satisfied with it's feature and capability. I have written a short description how to install Zimbra Mail Server on OpenSUSE 10.3 [0] [1]. I also created a small script (written in Bahasa Indonesia, will try to translate into English version for next few days. Hope I can make it today)
What make me feel happy with Zimbra is it's integrated feature for powerful mail server and collaboration suite. You just need I process install to get a running mail server with smtp, pop, imap, webmail, antispam and antivirus, rather than setting up a portion of mail server component using postfxi/qmail, imap, etc
Please feel free to drop any question related deploying Zimbra on OpenSUSE. Zimbra implementation on OpenSUSE is our hot topic here in Indonesian OpenSUSE community [2].
[0] : http://www.vavai.net/index.php?/archives/15-Zimbra-Installation-on-OpenSUSE-... [1] : http://www.zimbra.com/forums/installation/16457-installing-zcs-5-0-x-opensus... [2] : http://www.opensuse.or.id --
Hi Masim, Good to hear that you had no problems with Zimbra. One of my co-workers was instructed to install it on a 10.3 systems, but complained that there were too many errors and requested a 32-bit machine instead of the 64-bit machine i gave him. But even with a 32-bit 10.3 machine he claimed he was not capable to do it. So last week i found out that he let somebody else install it using Fedora. As you managed to get it installed and running smoothly, i conclude that it's not a suse-issue but probably PEBKAC, Well, it's a bsd guy .... I'll forward your links and ask he to try again! Tnx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Hans Witvliet <hwit@a-domani.nl> wrote:
Hi Masim,
But even with a 32-bit 10.3 machine he claimed he was not capable to do it. So last week i found out that he let somebody else install it using Fedora. As you managed to get it installed and running smoothly, i conclude that it's not a suse-issue but probably PEBKAC, Well, it's a bsd guy ....
I'll forward your links and ask he to try again!
Hi Hans, After reviewing some installation issue while deploying Zimbra on openSUSE, there is some general error frequently occurred : 1. Minimum specification for Zimbra Deployment 2. Misconfigured DNS setting (include FQDN hostname) 3. Firewall and AppArmor Issue (related to bind-DNS) 4. OpenLDAP setting I started deploying Zimbra with version 4.5.5 on OpenSUSE 10.2, and then various version of Zimbra 4.5.X on OpenSUSE 10.2 and 10.3. Currently, I used Zimbra 5.0.4 on openSUSE 10.3. Everything worked fine. Please feel free to drop any question regarding this issue (Zimbra on openSUSE). I'm not as familiar as expert guys in mail server configuration on openSUSE, but I will try my best to share my experience. -- Best Regards, Masim "Vavai" Sugianto /************************************************************/ Blog (ID) : http://www.vavai.com/blog/index.php Blog (EN) : http://www.vavai.net Community : http://www.opensuse.or.id /************************************************************/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hans Witvliet wrote:
On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 09:09 +0700, Masim "Vavai" Sugianto wrote:
Currenly I'm using Zimbra Mail Server 5.0.4 on OpenSUSE 10.3 and I'm quite satisfied with it's feature and capability. I have written a short description how to install Zimbra Mail Server on OpenSUSE 10.3 [0] [1]. I also created a small script (written in Bahasa Indonesia, will try to translate into English version for next few days. Hope I can make it today)
What make me feel happy with Zimbra is it's integrated feature for powerful mail server and collaboration suite. You just need I process install to get a running mail server with smtp, pop, imap, webmail, antispam and antivirus, rather than setting up a portion of mail server component using postfxi/qmail, imap, etc
Please feel free to drop any question related deploying Zimbra on OpenSUSE. Zimbra implementation on OpenSUSE is our hot topic here in Indonesian OpenSUSE community [2].
[0] : http://www.vavai.net/index.php?/archives/15-Zimbra-Installation-on-OpenSUSE-... [1] : http://www.zimbra.com/forums/installation/16457-installing-zcs-5-0-x-opensus... [2] : http://www.opensuse.or.id --
Hi Masim,
Good to hear that you had no problems with Zimbra. One of my co-workers was instructed to install it on a 10.3 systems, but complained that there were too many errors and requested a 32-bit machine instead of the 64-bit machine i gave him.
But even with a 32-bit 10.3 machine he claimed he was not capable to do it. So last week i found out that he let somebody else install it using Fedora. As you managed to get it installed and running smoothly, i conclude that it's not a suse-issue but probably PEBKAC, Well, it's a bsd guy ....
Heh.... no excuse. Most Unix sites have several flavors of Unix in production, and anyone calling himself an admin should at least be comfortable using other flavors -- even something as goofy as AIX its whacky "stanza" config files in /etc which look like warmed over VM/CMS (evidently to keep mainframe admins from whining if they were called upon to admin AIX machines?).
I'll forward your links and ask he to try again!
Tnx
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Adam Jimerson wrote:
I am wanting to set up an email server, this is my first ever attempt, and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on programs to use, ways to set it up. I have the SUSE Linux Bible for SUSE 9.1, bought it from a local bookstore when I first started Linux, and it talks about Postix, Qpopper, and Cyrus but I was wondering if there are better programs now then there was back when that book was written.
Thanks in advance!
That depends on your needs. I'm currently using the UoW IMAP server, but I understand Dovecot is good. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 10 April 2008 10:18:37 pm James Knott wrote:
Adam Jimerson wrote:
I am wanting to set up an email server, this is my first ever attempt, and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on programs to use, ways to set it up. I have the SUSE Linux Bible for SUSE 9.1, bought it from a local bookstore when I first started Linux, and it talks about Postix, Qpopper, and Cyrus but I was wondering if there are better programs now then there was back when that book was written.
Thanks in advance!
That depends on your needs. I'm currently using the UoW IMAP server, but I understand Dovecot is good.
-- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org>
Anything that works is my only really need, I just want to get way from my charter.net address but still having pop3/imap. I got sick of my ISPs email service went down and I know more about the problem then they did, so I figured running my own mail server would be a good idea/learning experience.
Adam Jimerson wrote:
I am wanting to set up an email server, this is my first ever attempt, and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on programs to use, ways to set it up. I have the SUSE Linux Bible for SUSE 9.1, bought it from a local bookstore when I first started Linux, and it talks about Postix, Qpopper, and Cyrus but I was wondering if there are better programs now then there was back when that book was written.
Thanks in advance!
Hi Adam, If this is your first time check out http://www.shupp.org/toaster/ for a complete step-by-step installation of a COMPLETE email server. If you follow all the steps to the letter you can't miss - its a no-brainer. Rgds. Otto. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Adam Jimerson escribió:
I have the SUSE Linux Bible for SUSE 9.1,
Ouch, that's and oldie.. heh ? Probably still helpful to understand basic things, not sure if it will help you in this particular problem with a completely different product.. bought it from a local
bookstore when I first started Linux, and it talks about Postix, Qpopper, and Cyrus but I was wondering if there are better programs now then there was back when that book was written.
Install dovecot, and configure it to use IMAP ONLY ( Please forget POP3) , then, you need an MTA and if you dont know how to configure postfix, ask google for some how-to or let yast to guide you in the configuration process, using the MTA module. You may also need an spam filter ( I wish you much success with that :P ) then install dspam. -- "Freedom of religion also means freedom **from** religion" - Anonymous Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/
Adam Jimerson wrote:
I am wanting to set up an email server, this is my first ever attempt, and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on programs to use, ways to set it up. I have the SUSE Linux Bible for SUSE 9.1, bought it from a local bookstore when I first started Linux, and it talks about Postix, Qpopper, and Cyrus but I was wondering if there are better programs now then there was back when that book was written.
Thanks in advance!
Here is a quick post on dovecot I posted earlier. I would certainly recommend dovecot as the mailer. UW has plain password limitations that can cause big problems with webmail running on localhost. You will already have postfix installed, Just install dovecot, change 2 lines in the config file and your done except for the post fix config. Here is the post. zwollo@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David:
I was wondering if you were able to sort out the issue you mentioned with your post: "Bug: Replies from subfolders not placed in sent mail on 1.5.2 or 1.4.14 with UW imap".
I am having the exact same problem.
Cheers,
Antonio
Yes Antonio I did. The solution was to quit using UW and switch to dovecot. The switch is simple: (1) install dovecot (2) edit /etc/dovecot.conf, set # Disable SSL/TLS support. ssl_disable = no #mail_location = mail_location = mbox:~/Mail:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u (if your mailboxes are in ~/Mail and inbox in /var/spool/mail/user - the default on openSuSE 10.3) (3) install the dovecot.pem ssl cert: cd /usr/share/doc/packages/dovecot vi dovecot.crt (change as you need) sh makecrt.sh Done! If you use fetchmail for spamassassin, etc... then just get your ssl fingerprint with: 09:11 nirvana~/tmp> openssl x509 -in /etc/ssl/certs/dovecot.pem -noout -fingerprint?SHA1 Fingerprint=AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF:00:11:22:33:44:55:66:77:88:99 Set up your fetchmail statement: poll *your.mailserver.com* protocol IMAP : user *yourusername* with password *yourpassword* sslfingerprint "AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF:00:11:22:33:44:55:66:77:88:99" That's it for the basic dovecot and fetchmail operation For a more complete discussion see "8. mail (Postfix with UW imap or Dovecot)" in: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/howto/openSuSE-10.3_Server-Setup -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Adam Jimerson wrote:
I am wanting to set up an email server, this is my first ever attempt, and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on programs to use, ways to set it up. I have the SUSE Linux Bible for SUSE 9.1, bought it from a local bookstore when I first started Linux, and it talks about Postix, Qpopper, and Cyrus but I was wondering if there are better programs now then there was back when that book was written.
Don't start with programs, start with your requirements. If you wish to receive and send mails directly you need a static ip address and a hostname with matching reverse dns record. Otherwise don't bother. The basic package is a smtp server and a pop3/imap server. If you want webmail you need imap. The rest depends on your other requirements to see which imapserver or smtp server matches these requirements best. Don't forget support by /documentation/web/mailinglist! This is very important if you start your own server. Nothing is more frustrating than a malfunctioning service when you have to struggle all alone with the problem. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 11 Apr, 2008 at 09:49:32 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:
Adam Jimerson wrote:
I am wanting to set up an email server, this is my first ever attempt, and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on programs to use, ways to set it up.
In the department for 'completely general advice'; Don't start using your system for anything 'serious' until you're fairly familiar with how everything works together. It can be very stressfull and frustrating, when 'something' breaks and you're not sure how to fix it (or maybe not even *aware* that $whatever's broken) - since you may start to lose mail. Make *one* change at a time. Test everything, all the time. Check the logs. "lather, rinse, repeat" Also you may want to subscribe to this list with a 'nomail' account, so you can still get help if your system breaks. http://en.opensuse.org/Mailing_Lists#Nomail_subscription
I have the SUSE Linux Bible for SUSE 9.1, bought it from a local bookstore when I first started Linux, and it talks about Postix, Qpopper, and Cyrus but I was wondering if there are better programs now then there was back when that book was written.
Don't start with programs, start with your requirements.
If you wish to receive and send mails directly you need a static ip address and a hostname with matching reverse dns record. Otherwise don't bother.
While having reverse dns is definitely desirable, it's not *required*. I've been doing fine without reverse dns for years. Static ip, if you can get it, is a very good thing though. Makes everything simpler. /jon -- YMMV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Fri, 11 Apr, 2008 at 09:49:32 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:
Adam Jimerson wrote:
While having reverse dns is definitely desirable, it's not *required*. I've been doing fine without reverse dns for years.
Static ip, if you can get it, is a very good thing though. Makes everything simpler.
/jon
There is of course the alternative of using Dynamic DNS with DynDNS (www.dyndns.com) (some of their additional mail services might be of use here). There are some organisations that offer authenticated mail relay services as well so if you are having issues with your ISPs relay you can relay through these. - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIAHX1asN0sSnLmgIRAkasAJkBWwsC25YdTUGbyFU0WWaB9izCygCg3zH3 IjddnDTICYbPviBRLEv0bI4= =/Y58 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 April 2008 04:42:30 am G T Smith wrote:
Jon Clausen wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr, 2008 at 09:49:32 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:
Adam Jimerson wrote:
While having reverse dns is definitely desirable, it's not *required*. I've been doing fine without reverse dns for years.
Static ip, if you can get it, is a very good thing though. Makes everything simpler.
/jon
There is of course the alternative of using Dynamic DNS with DynDNS (www.dyndns.com) (some of their additional mail services might be of use here). There are some organisations that offer authenticated mail relay services as well so if you are having issues with your ISPs relay you can relay through these.
Yea, I helped a friend set up a server using a Dynamic DNS from DynDNS, they allow you to set up the MX needed flags for your domain to run mail through. The problem is with the free accounts you only get a sub-domain which I would think would look ugly when dealing with email.
Jon Clausen wrote:
If you wish to receive and send mails directly you need a static ip address and a hostname with matching reverse dns record. Otherwise don't bother.
While having reverse dns is definitely desirable, it's not *required*. I've been doing fine without reverse dns for years.
Then you were lucky, nothing more. (^-°) There are a lot of destinations that will reject mails from servers without matching reverse dns, major provides as well as big companies. Others will flag mails you're sending as spam or even discard it, when you don't have a clean reverse dns record, which is almost as bad. Many unanswered emails have simply disappeared because they were flagged as spam and deleted together with the 300 other genuine spam. There's no technical reason that a static ip or a reverse dns is needed, it is simply needed to pass the spam detection policies. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
In the department for 'completely general advice';
Don't start using your system for anything 'serious' until you're fairly familiar with how everything works together. It can be very stressfull and frustrating, when 'something' breaks and you're not sure how to fix it (or maybe not even *aware* that $whatever's broken) - since you may start to lose mail.
Make *one* change at a time.
Test everything, all the time.
Check the logs.
"lather, rinse, repeat" Yea I was planning on I am the only one that uses it, until I am sure that everything is working, some of my friends that I talked to them about this are interested in getting an email account from me. I am also going to keep my current email account active, just slowly move everything over to my own email address once it is ready.
Also you may want to subscribe to this list with a 'nomail' account, so you can still get help if your system breaks.
http://en.opensuse.org/Mailing_Lists#Nomail_subscription
I have the SUSE Linux Bible for SUSE 9.1, bought it from a local bookstore when I first started Linux, and it talks about Postix, Qpopper, and Cyrus but I was wondering if there are better programs now then there was back when that book was written.
Don't start with programs, start with your requirements.
If you wish to receive and send mails directly you need a static ip address and a hostname with matching reverse dns record. Otherwise don't bother.
While having reverse dns is definitely desirable, it's not *required*. I've been doing fine without reverse dns for years.
Static ip, if you can get it, is a very good thing though. Makes everything simpler.
I'm not sure if I am able to get a static ip, it depends on if my ISP will allow me to add that on top of my current internet account.
Adam Jimerson <vendion@charter.net> writes:
I have the SUSE Linux Bible for SUSE 9.1, bought it from a local bookstore when I first started Linux, and it talks about Postix, Qpopper, and Cyrus but I was wondering if there are better programs now then there was back when that book was written.
I personally use courier-imap (included in SUSE) with STARTTLS and ssl support: http://www.courier-mta.org/imap/features.html Charles
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