Hey Group; Great news on moving away from 8.2 is the ability to compile a new kernel that runs. I have been building kernels for about 8 years and under 8.2 all failed. However, alsa went just fine. Under 9.0 and SuSE's stock kernel alsa-drivers would not compile at all due to the kernel version and linux/include files. I replaced the SuSE source and kernel with 2.4.22 and now even alsa is compiling. Great news! GCC 3.# seems to be fixed and now even the kernel and kernel drivers (alsa, nvidia and etc) should work. -- 73 de Donn Washburn __ " http://www.hal-pc.org/~n5xwb " Ham Callsign N5XWB / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __ 307 Savoy St. / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ / Sugar Land, TX 77478 /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\ LL# 1.281.242.3256 a MSDOS Virus "Free Zone" OS Email: n5xwb@hal-pc.org " http://counter.li.org " #279316
Donn aka n5xwb Washburn wrote:
Hey Group;
Great news on moving away from 8.2 is the ability to compile a new kernel that runs. I have been building kernels for about 8 years and under 8.2 all failed. However, alsa went just fine. Under 9.0 and SuSE's stock kernel alsa-drivers would not compile at all due to the kernel version and linux/include files. I replaced the SuSE source and kernel with 2.4.22 and now even alsa is compiling. Great news!
GCC 3.# seems to be fixed and now even the kernel and kernel drivers (alsa, nvidia and etc) should work.
Hmmmm. I would like to know about this alot more. I am glad that 9 worked out so well for you. I thought I would not consider 9 because it looked like there were more problems than what I could handle right now. I am running 8.2 pro on my Athlon 1600+ xp 512 megs of ram and everything was fine except usb would not work. Once I upgraded to the 2.4.21-108-athlon then my usb worked fine including my "officially" unsupported HP 4300c scanner. However, after 2 weeks some issues developed which I posted into another thread here. Someone said they thought I had file corruption so I did the reiserfsck and that seemed to help most but not all of the problems. I am considering upgrading my kernel to this 2.4.22, but it sounds like it would not work well on 8.2? In other words the best route would be to get 9 then upgrade the kernel? Is it worth a try on my 8.2 and does anyone know how I could get this to run smoothly and well with 8.2? Is there a usb fix for athlon's on 8.2 that anyone knows about that would not need upgrading a kernel? Any thoughts or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Marcia
On Saturday 08 November 2003 12:16 pm, marcia wrote:
I am considering upgrading my kernel to this 2.4.22, but it sounds like it would not work well on 8.2? In other words the best route would be to get 9 then upgrade the kernel? Is it worth a try on my 8.2 and does anyone know how I could get this to run smoothly and well with 8.2? Is there a usb fix for athlon's on 8.2 that anyone knows about that would not need upgrading a kernel?
Any thoughts or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
I am running 2.4.22 with SuSE 8.2 on an Athlon. No problems. The only problems may come in getting the compile done with the compiler that comes with 8.2 but it sounds like you've already updated the compiler. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 11/08/03 12:30 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ " Sex on television can't hurt you unless you fall off."
Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 08 November 2003 12:16 pm, marcia wrote:
I am considering upgrading my kernel to this 2.4.22, but it sounds like it would not work well on 8.2? In other words the best route would be to get 9 then upgrade the kernel? Is it worth a try on my 8.2 and does anyone know how I could get this to run smoothly and well with 8.2? Is there a usb fix for athlon's on 8.2 that anyone knows about that would not need upgrading a kernel?
Any thoughts or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
I am running 2.4.22 with SuSE 8.2 on an Athlon. No problems.
The only problems may come in getting the compile done with the compiler that comes with 8.2 but it sounds like you've already updated the compiler.
Dear Bruce, No, I have not updated the compiler. I probably need to and that could be part of the problem I had. Would you tell me exactly where to get this update and how to apply? I am planning to upgrade my 8.2 to 2.4.22 so it seems like this would be a good idea. Are there any other things I need to know before I do this ? Any suggestion will be appreciated since I am an extreme newbie about kernel compiling. Thanks for the help. Marcia
On Saturday 08 November 2003 14:32 pm, marcia wrote:
Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 08 November 2003 12:16 pm, marcia wrote:
I am considering upgrading my kernel to this 2.4.22, but it sounds like it would not work well on 8.2? In other words the best route would be to get 9 then upgrade the kernel? Is it worth a try on my 8.2 and does anyone know how I could get this to run smoothly and well with 8.2? Is there a usb fix for athlon's on 8.2 that anyone knows about that would not need upgrading a kernel?
Any thoughts or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
I am running 2.4.22 with SuSE 8.2 on an Athlon. No problems.
The only problems may come in getting the compile done with the compiler that comes with 8.2 but it sounds like you've already updated the compiler.
Dear Bruce,
No, I have not updated the compiler. I probably need to and that could be part of the problem I had. Would you tell me exactly where to get this update and how to apply? I am planning to upgrade my 8.2 to 2.4.22 so it seems like this would be a good idea. Are there any other things I need to know before I do this ? Any suggestion will be appreciated since I am an extreme newbie about kernel compiling.
Thanks for the help.
Marcia
I'm going to have to send you to the archives. Someone from SuSE posted a location where an updated compiler was located.. There are about 16 RPMs and for all I know, they may now be available in YOU but if not then they are available somewhere on SUSE's site. Would suggest you get the gcc updates first and see how that goes. I have a writeup (now a little old at the 2.4.16 level) that I can send you. It should cover the basics. You will also have to get the latest modutils from www.kernel.org but in reality, I think the modutils you have should be fine. I'm using modutils-2.4.25. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 11/08/03 15:46 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win, you're still a rat." - Lily Tomlin
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/gcc/ is where it's at. Regards Sid. Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 08 November 2003 14:32 pm, marcia wrote:
Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 08 November 2003 12:16 pm, marcia wrote:
I am considering upgrading my kernel to this 2.4.22, but it sounds like it would not work well on 8.2? In other words the best route would be to get 9 then upgrade the kernel? Is it worth a try on my 8.2 and does anyone know how I could get this to run smoothly and well with 8.2? Is there a usb fix for athlon's on 8.2 that anyone knows about that would not need upgrading a kernel?
Any thoughts or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
I am running 2.4.22 with SuSE 8.2 on an Athlon. No problems.
The only problems may come in getting the compile done with the compiler that comes with 8.2 but it sounds like you've already updated the compiler.
Dear Bruce,
No, I have not updated the compiler. I probably need to and that could be part of the problem I had. Would you tell me exactly where to get this update and how to apply? I am planning to upgrade my 8.2 to 2.4.22 so it seems like this would be a good idea. Are there any other things I need to know before I do this ? Any suggestion will be appreciated since I am an extreme newbie about kernel compiling.
Thanks for the help.
Marcia
I'm going to have to send you to the archives. Someone from SuSE posted a location where an updated compiler was located.. There are about 16 RPMs and for all I know, they may now be available in YOU but if not then they are available somewhere on SUSE's site.
Would suggest you get the gcc updates first and see how that goes.
I have a writeup (now a little old at the 2.4.16 level) that I can send you. It should cover the basics.
You will also have to get the latest modutils from www.kernel.org but in reality, I think the modutils you have should be fine. I'm using modutils-2.4.25.
-- Sid Boyce .... Linux Only Shop.
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Damon Register
And the British say the Americans murder the kings english? :-) Just to be picky, the King (or Queen) of England has not been English for several centuries. After the death of Elizabeth I, all the kings (and Queen) has been from Europe. The current Queen probably has more German blood in her than most of the SUSE employees in Germany :-)
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And the British say the Americans murder the kings english? :-) Just to be picky, the King (or Queen) of England has not been English for several centuries. After the death of Elizabeth I, all the kings (and Queen) has been from Europe.
England is part of Europe. Don't forget that... Ulrich
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Ulrich Leopold
And the British say the Americans murder the kings english? :-) Just to be picky, the King (or Queen) of England has not been English for several centuries. After the death of Elizabeth I, all the kings(and Queen) has been from Europe.
England is part of Europe. Don't forget that... Since the EU I guess, but it always considered itself different. Maybe if they had identified closer to the rest of Europe there would have been fewer wars :-)
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On Monday 10 November 2003 20:32, Jerry Feldman wrote:
Since the EU I guess, but it always considered itself different. Maybe if they had identified closer to the rest of Europe there would have been fewer wars :-)
Maybe the reason for the "wars" was not that any "one" was different, but that the rest couldn't sit idly by and allow any "one" to #be# different. Perhaps it's envy, perhaps it's something else ... perhaps it's simply that "some" can't live with that there are others with their own origin, and must "convince" themselves that "they" are the origin of all. And maybe the "lack" of wars, is not because a "war" isn't needed, but that the "stronger" has come up with a plan to get it all, and simply "stamp" the different as outsiders. Unemployed, envied, disliked and without leadership the "stronger" can finally get all, or destroy what it can't. Sounds like buisness as usual...
So what war ded the British start?
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On 10 Nov 2003 17:54:07 +0100 Ulrich Leopold
wrote: And the British say the Americans murder the kings english? :-) Just to be picky, the King (or Queen) of England has not been English for several centuries. After the death of Elizabeth I, all the kings(and Queen) has been from Europe.
England is part of Europe. Don't forget that... Since the EU I guess, but it always considered itself different. Maybe if they had identified closer to the rest of Europe there would have been fewer wars :-)
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Hi, On Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 13:52:34, jhb wrote:
So what war ded the British start?
This is off topic. Please subscribe yourself to suse-ot and discuss it there. Henne -- Hendrik Vogelsang aka Henne mailto: hvogel<at>hennevogel.de When people think you are dying, they really listen, instead of just waiting for their turn to speak. # random sigs made with fortune
On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 21:52, jhb wrote:
Hi
So what war ded the British start? I think the british caused and started more wars than enough
Ian
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On 10 Nov 2003 17:54:07 +0100 Ulrich Leopold
wrote: And the British say the Americans murder the kings english? :-) Just to be picky, the King (or Queen) of England has not been English for several centuries. After the death of Elizabeth I, all the kings(and Queen) has been from Europe.
England is part of Europe. Don't forget that... Since the EU I guess, but it always considered itself different. Maybe if they had identified closer to the rest of Europe there would have been fewer wars :-)
- -- Jerry Feldman
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I had the same problem on 8.1 and 8.2 until I upgraded to gcc-3.3.1-16 on 8.2. I did an upgrade from a fresh install 8.2 to 9.0 on my laptop and carried on running on a 2.4.23-pre8 kernel I built under 8.2. Regards Sid. Donn aka n5xwb Washburn wrote:
Hey Group;
Great news on moving away from 8.2 is the ability to compile a new kernel that runs. I have been building kernels for about 8 years and under 8.2 all failed. However, alsa went just fine. Under 9.0 and SuSE's stock kernel alsa-drivers would not compile at all due to the kernel version and linux/include files. I replaced the SuSE source and kernel with 2.4.22 and now even alsa is compiling. Great news!
GCC 3.# seems to be fixed and now even the kernel and kernel drivers (alsa, nvidia and etc) should work.
-- Sid Boyce .... Linux Only Shop.
participants (11)
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Bruce Marshall
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Damon Register
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Donn aka n5xwb Washburn
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Henne Vogelsang
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Ian David Laws
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Jerry Feldman
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jhb
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marcia
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Sid Boyce
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Ulrich Leopold
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Örn Hansen