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Stan Goodman

4 Oct 2009 4 Oct '09

21:53

The expression "Cosa Vostra" keeps running through my mind. I am now trying to install the internal wireless card in my Vostro notebook machine. I've viewed quite a number of tutorials, and they all fall short, sometimes because of offering" successful commands or procedures that don't exist. I found an encouraging one at http://www.susegeek.com/networking/fix-bcm4311431243214322-wireless-in-opens... that offers the following, mentioning specifically the card in my machine and its available driver: "Broadcom has released a linux version of its driver both 32-bit (x86) and 64bit (x86_64) editions for BCM4311, BCM4312, BCM4321 & BCM4322 Wireless cards. A 1-click install Yast Metapackage file (YMP) is available for install from Packman which makes it easy to get your wireless up and running in no time." He could have given a better clue about finding YMP. I searched in YaST (with Packman repositories enabled) for "YMP" and "metapackage", and found "yast2-metapackage-handler", which I am not at all certain is what he means. I want to d/l it to the desktop machine, so I tried to find it on Packman's website, searching for "ymp", "metapackage", and even "yast2", with no success. how can I find it? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Karl Sinn

4 Oct 4 Oct

22:04

Hi, I have no experience with this driver, but I found this link: http://packman.links2linux.de/package/broadcom-wl Karl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

22:13

On 2009/10/04 23:53 (GMT+0200) Stan Goodman composed:

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I am now trying to install the internal wireless card in my Vostro notebook machine.... ... He could have given a better clue about finding YMP. ... how can I find it?

http://software.opensuse.org/search The 1-click install links in the results there end in .ymp. Those links figure out if added repositories are needed, adds them if necessary, then downloads and installs. -- " A patriot without religion . . . is as great a paradox, as an honest man without the fear of God. . . . 2nd U.S. President, John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

5 Oct 5 Oct

13:21

At 00:13:10 on Monday Monday 05 October 2009, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2009/10/04 23:53 (GMT+0200) Stan Goodman composed:

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I am now trying to install the internal wireless card in my Vostro notebook machine....

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He could have given a better clue about finding YMP.

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how can I find it?

http://software.opensuse.org/search

Foolishly, I have been trying to find it on, among other places, the Broadcom site, where it isn't. Thanks. I'll keep trying to catch software,opensuse.org online.

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The 1-click install links in the results there end in .ymp. Those links figure out if added repositories are needed, adds them if necessary, then downloads and installs. -- " A patriot without religion . . . is as great a paradox, as an honest man without the fear of God. . . . 2nd U.S. President, John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

18:03

At 00:13:10 on Monday Monday 05 October 2009, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2009/10/04 23:53 (GMT+0200) Stan Goodman composed:

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I am now trying to install the internal wireless card in my Vostro notebook machine....

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He could have given a better clue about finding YMP.

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how can I find it?

http://software.opensuse.org/search

The 1-click install links in the results there end in .ymp. Those links figure out if added repositories are needed, adds them if necessary, then downloads and installs.

It turns out that all this may be in vain at present. On the page of Linux Wireless [http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43] I learn that the number of my chip is essentially meaning less, and that one has to find the REAL number by running: :~> lspci -vnn | grep 14e4 which yields a number (4315), which is in turn to be sought in a table. In my case, the relevant line of the table is PCI-ID State Chip 14e4:4315 in progress BCM4312 802.11b/g - low power This is the only PCI-ID chip that is "in progress"; others are either supportd or marked "?". But the upshot is, if I understand what is meant by the "State" of the driver, that my chip is not supported at present, but that may or may not change in the indeterminate future. By machine, which I bought for use in a WeFi environment, is useless for that purpose. I don't think I have any room for complaint as far as the sale is concerned. Yes, I am pissed off. On the bright side, I'm sure glad I found this out now, and not after the frustration of doing everything right and still not being able to get wireless operation working. But thanks anyway. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

6 Oct 6 Oct

01:12

On 2009/10/05 20:03 (GMT+0200) Stan Goodman composed:

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It turns out that all this may be in vain at present. On the page of Linux Wireless [http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43] I learn that the number of my chip is essentially meaning less, and that one has to find the REAL number by running:

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:~> lspci -vnn | grep 14e4

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which yields a number (4315), which is in turn to be sought in a table. In my case, the relevant line of the table is

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PCI-ID State Chip 14e4:4315 in progress BCM4312 802.11b/g - low power

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This is the only PCI-ID chip that is "in progress"; others are either supportd or marked "?". But the upshot is, if I understand what is meant by the "State" of the driver, that my chip is not supported at present, but that may or may not change in the indeterminate future. By machine, which I bought for use in a WeFi environment, is useless for that purpose. I don't think I have any room for complaint as far as the sale is concerned.

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Yes, I am pissed off. On the bright side, I'm sure glad I found this out now, and not after the frustration of doing everything right and still not being able to get wireless operation working.

It may be that the lack of support is a lack of appropriate hardware at the disposal of the wireless devs. Find out where they hang out, join up, and maybe you can help the process of supporting your PCI ID to quicker fruition. -- " A patriot without religion . . . is as great a paradox, as an honest man without the fear of God. . . . 2nd U.S. President, John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

11:07

At 00:13:10 on Monday Monday 05 October 2009, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2009/10/04 23:53 (GMT+0200) Stan Goodman composed:

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I am now trying to install the internal wireless card in my Vostro notebook machine....

-----snip----- As a matter of good citizenship, I should probably mention that the Broadcom bcm4322 wireless card, which is built in to the Vostro 15 notebook machine does not appear in the list of cards supported by the NDISWrapper either, a remarkable fact for a machine intended to be loaded with Linux. At this point, I think the simplest way to gain wireless capability would be to buy an external USB wireless dongle, a supported one, of course (the machine hasn't support for PCMCIA cards). -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Matthias Titeux

14:21

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As a matter of good citizenship, I should probably mention that the Broadcom bcm4322 wireless card, which is built in to the Vostro 15 notebook machine does not appear in the list of cards supported by the NDISWrapper either, a remarkable fact for a machine intended to be loaded with Linux.

At this point, I think the simplest way to gain wireless capability would be to buy an external USB wireless dongle, a supported one, of course (the machine hasn't support for PCMCIA cards).

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-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel

Another possibility is (If you can open the case) to change the miniPCIe wifi card by a supported model. They are pretty cheap on ebay. People who wanted a small Hackintosh used to do that on some netbook with wifi card not supported by Mac OS X. if possible, it will be a more convenient way to have wifi than a USB dongle. Hope it helps. -- / \ /_!_\ My e-mail address has just changed. Please note the new one : matthias.titeux@inserm.fr _____________________________________________________________ Matthias Titeux, PhD Département de génétique des maladies cutanées et allergiques dans des modèles animaux et chez l'homme. INSERM U563 - CPTP Pavillon Lefebvre, 5ème étage CHU Purpan BP3028 31024 Toulouse cedex 03 __________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

14:50

At 16:21:34 on Tuesday Tuesday 06 October 2009, Matthias Titeux wrote:

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As a matter of good citizenship, I should probably mention that the Broadcom bcm4322 wireless card, which is built in to the Vostro 15 notebook machine does not appear in the list of cards supported by the NDISWrapper either, a remarkable fact for a machine intended to be loaded with Linux.

At this point, I think the simplest way to gain wireless capability would be to buy an external USB wireless dongle, a supported one, of course (the machine hasn't support for PCMCIA cards).

-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel

Another possibility is (If you can open the case) to change the miniPCIe wifi card by a supported model. They are pretty cheap on ebay. People who wanted a small Hackintosh used to do that on some netbook with wifi card not supported by Mac OS X. if possible, it will be a more convenient way to have wifi than a USB dongle.

Hope it helps.

That's an idea all right, but it won't help with the time problem. It's worth looking into for afterward. Although I hadn't thought of ebay, the idea of replacing the card had crossed my mind; I didn't know if the WiFi card was actually a replaceable element, or if it was just some circuitry on the motherboard, thanks for telling me that. Given the distance (in time-space), it might be an equally good idea to buy a supported card new, if I can find out whether it is available here and who imports them -- if anybosy. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

kanenas＠hawaii.rr.com

21:38

On Tuesday 06 October 2009 01:07:49 am Stan Goodman wrote:

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At 00:13:10 on Monday Monday 05 October 2009, Felix Miata

wrote:

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On 2009/10/04 23:53 (GMT+0200) Stan Goodman composed:

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I am now trying to install the internal wireless card in my Vostro notebook machine....

-----snip-----

As a matter of good citizenship, I should probably mention that the Broadcom bcm4322 wireless card, which is built in to the Vostro 15 notebook machine does not appear in the list of cards supported by the NDISWrapper either, a remarkable fact for a machine intended to be loaded with Linux.

At this point, I think the simplest way to gain wireless capability would be to buy an external USB wireless dongle, a supported one, of course (the machine hasn't support for PCMCIA cards).

-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel

stan, try the ndiswrapper. my vostro works with it. somewhat, that is , it is always an adventure to connect to a *new* connection or to switch from one to another after putting the machine to sleep. i runn 11.1 with kde3 and knetworkmanager flakes out a lot and ifup has a hard time forgetting the "old" connection even after it is reset in yast. i often do a lot of "rmmod ndiswrapper"close knetworkmanager and reconfig, it often seems that ndiswrapper gets multiple installs, but, there are times everything works with no problem. so far i have been unable to make a connection only 3-4 times in more than 100 diff locations, but the painless ones are only a handful. no i don't know the exact chip i have, but i believe the "exterior" name is bcm4322. when i go to the shop l will check the rest. good luck, d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

22:02

At 23:38:18 on Tuesday Tuesday 06 October 2009, kanenas@hawaii.rr.com wrote:

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On Tuesday 06 October 2009 01:07:49 am Stan Goodman wrote:

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At 00:13:10 on Monday Monday 05 October 2009, Felix Miata

wrote:

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On 2009/10/04 23:53 (GMT+0200) Stan Goodman composed:

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I am now trying to install the internal wireless card in my Vostro notebook machine....

-----snip-----

As a matter of good citizenship, I should probably mention that the Broadcom bcm4322 wireless card, which is built in to the Vostro 15 notebook machine does not appear in the list of cards supported by the NDISWrapper either, a remarkable fact for a machine intended to be loaded with Linux.

At this point, I think the simplest way to gain wireless capability would be to buy an external USB wireless dongle, a supported one, of course (the machine hasn't support for PCMCIA cards).

-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel

stan,

try the ndiswrapper. my vostro works with it. somewhat, that is , it is always an adventure to connect to a *new* connection or to switch from one to another after putting the machine to sleep. i runn 11.1 with kde3 and knetworkmanager flakes out a lot and ifup has a hard time forgetting the "old" connection even after it is reset in yast. i often do a lot of "rmmod ndiswrapper"close knetworkmanager and reconfig, it often seems that ndiswrapper gets multiple installs, but, there are times everything works with no problem. so far i have been unable to make a connection only 3-4 times in more than 100 diff locations, but the painless ones are only a handful. no i don't know the exact chip i have, but i believe the "exterior" name is bcm4322. when i go to the shop l will check the rest. good luck, d.

The chip on your card is probably 4315, like mine. You can find out by running: lspci -vnn | grep 14e4 Thanks for the description of your "adventure", which seems indistinguishable from masochism. I have no intention of trying the wrapper since I saw the presence of the item in the "unsupported" list. I don't look for trouble. But ... Enjoy! T -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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