**** " Imagine; all of everything that is or was, can be reduced to an equation less than one inch long !" Dr. M.Kaku *** Whiew! Just installed the thing and it went surprisingly well for a very first "go" w/ it. I'm not much of a user of Word Processors or Office Suites Generally , but this looks pretty nice. It's streets ahead of where the SO5.2 is , and it does install very nicely w/o the Java ( even tho it found a Java environmen , I thought I'd give Ben's "trick" a try. And I was stunned when it didn't even really complain , or put up any kind of resistance. " AreaYou really rally sure?" whiney stuff sends me spare! ) The only hting I can't seem to locate is , an OpenOffice6 , or indeed openOffice.org icons. There are internal icons, for the buttons on the tool bars asn the like , but those aren't in an easy to locate place either. Does anyone have an OpenOffice Icon? or have a clue where they might be located? On another note , When I was browsing the Sun OpenOffice6 location, I saw they were talking about various folks putting the site ( for want of a better word) on Cd's and one could buy them for a reasonable fee. Edmunds Enterprises of America,Inc have a super deal ( I think) They'll send you a cd w/ all the files o it ( windows and linux versions , as well as Sparc, and IIRC even one for the Mac and the ubiquitous Scources ) at a price of $0.99 and shipping was $1.50 It is hardly worth the time to download it. YMMV of course. -- j afterthought : OK, you're it.