Linda Walsh said the following on 05/09/2013 12:04 AM:
Neutering is a very attractive idea when I think of systemd... and some of it's proponents...*sigh*...way too much testosterone in the design decisions around here: total domination: my way and no other. (am I wrong?)
There are a couple of things I don't understand. Compared to Windows, Linux is a liberal democracy. Microsoft seems quite content to issue releases that have wholesale changes that are dramatic and require an industry dedicated to retraining. They pay little attention to what users ask for. It really seems they decide what the market will be. Vendors do what they say. Our democracies may be imperfect (See Churchill on that) but if you don't like it you can join or set up a political part and get your own platform. At various stages in the process you can submit proposals and issues to be voted on, pressure your politicians. Yes they have authority, but this is because they have put themselves forward. A lot of what they do is what might be termed 'emergent necessity'; if the people want a <something> it has to be aid for, somehow, and that means taxes. You may say you don't like your president or prime minister, but at least we have a democracy and process. If you're unwilling to be part of the process then go elsewhere. I came to Canada when Maggie thatcher was in power in England. If you don't like openSuse with systemd ... The either submit something that makes up for all the deficiencies in sysvinit of your own, show it works, or go to something that doesn't use it. Like Windows. Oh, right. Back when I was at university one of the professors had a textbook that was required reading; it described a methodology for analysing a an engineering problem. At the front of the book was a quotation from the Roman poet Horace, which I think is appropriate here: If a better system is thine, impart it freely; If not, make use of mine. I think that sums up the whole FOSS movement very well. As I say, that was engineering. There are a lot of things in engineering that work and work well even though the theoreticians before hand said they wouldn't, that it was impossible or something. many such even said it in the face of demonstrations that it could be done. Some resist change for little to no rational reason. There are still men who have 'fly buttons' rather than zippers on such grounds. Linda you have many objections and I for one feel that you are inventing problems for yourself, creating a conservative stance just to be a conservative and rationalizing that stance rather than treating it rationally. Your obsession with a obsolete RFC is one example. I've tried to politely show your inconsistencies, like your objections to a file /+/usr which barely adds up to 10G when you're going on about having 1TB /tmp. Like your going on about dangling symlinks that are only symlinks for broken programs that need backward computability. And more. You claim to be a 'computer scientist' but I would have thought that such a role wound involve investigating 'the future ' and 'future directions' - whereas all we see is arch conservatism and rampant defence of recidivism. Its becoming clearer that you aren't actually a openSuse user, that you are really a Windows user. You are keeping Linux at arms length. I'm coming to believe that you're not ding enough with Linux to make the assertions you are making for the simple reason that I have proof that its not as you say, that the things you say can't work about openSuse and systemd and other 'work in progress' - which all of Linux is - are working. I'm doing better than you are on much more humble equipment. Why? because I get on with it and accept the way its going and don't construct reasons why it shouldn't work or shouldn't be allowed to work, or simply demonstrate by it working that what you say doesn't work does in fact work. But I'm just an engineer - or that's what it says in my passport. -- Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Strategic Assessments -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org