lynn said the following on 04/30/2013 07:15 AM:
On 30/04/13 03:45, Anton Aylward wrote:
lynn said the following on 04/29/2013 06:33 PM:
Network or not, I still have to go to each client to do something, whether it's install the 2 line script itself or install something which would install it for me. This makes no sense. Did you fail to install ... ssh or rdekstop or vncserver or whatever when you first installed the systems?
I inherited it. I installed nothing apart from te DC's and file servers. It's a school. I'm only there a few hours now and then. I advised them on openSUSE when they replaced their old xp boxes a while back. It's nice to see the kids using Linux where one time there was only windows. It's just that they don't plan anything.
Failing to plan is so common; the paternalistic attitudes implicit with many product/vendors ("You don't get fired for buying ...") and many aspects of society (you've giving us the school system as an example so I won't argue) is getting more pervasive. So, are you also telling us, that these people were sophisticated enough that when they installed Linux they did a detailed pick-and-choose of what components were and were not to be included rather than take the defaults, and in doing so *excluded* ssh and other remote access tools? If they were that sophisticated then they are sophisticated enough to be told to go back and install ssh and don't need you there. Heck, you 'advised' them, but if you didn't do the installations then who did? Now if it were me, I'd do what I've good experience at and PXE'd it all, something like the Linux Terminal Project. A server that dishes out the latest and greatest to all those client workstations. Its well established, well proven and makes administration so much simpler. because somewhere along the line you - or they - are going to be faced with updates and patches and stuff. Having the image managed on a server makes things so much easier and that would mean this whole step and repeat would never have been necessary. The change? Just have those old XP workstations boot PXE rather than from the hard disk. I'll grant you that it all seems strange at first, that is why LTSP is a nicely packaged kit :-) Its worth going off and experimenting -- one server, one workstation -- as it is with anything 'new' to get the feel for it. The same when you buy a new car or light plane. -- Though force can protect in emergency, only justice, fairness, consideration and co-operation can finally lead men to the dawn of eternal peace. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org