On Sun, 2002-12-29 at 21:05, PL O'Smith wrote:
I have had no problems getting a KDE interface on any of my installs on the old 233mhz machine with 2 gb hard drive. The default always installed that for me with a bit left over on the drive for playing later. Yes, the 1.7 is pushing the limits and there is much software installed you are not counting here. Install the same amount of usable software with your friend's WinNT and I can guarantee you it won't fit! If you want just an operating system, like you get with Windows, then remove all the other software you want to install with a default setup! See how much space you then have left over. Quite a bit I think you will find.
Look thru the software list for a default install and see if there is anything you might want to remove. As we have stated, if you want all the bells & whistles, you need to have the space to add them. If then all you want is a usable OS, remove everything else and see if you don't end up with a lot of hard drive space unused.
Backtrack a little here. The original problem is not to get KDE or Gnome installed, it is to figure out why the heck all the options are missing from the Default install. During the install, the ONLY available software selection is Default Install.... Minimum and Minimum with GUI are missing from the options. The help text doesn't even match what is on the screen. If we take Default we get a VERY pared down console install that has virtually nothing more than just enough Linux to start up. I didn't check to see how many bytes were installed. It only spent a couple minutes chugging away on disk one and then claimed it was done installing. If I leave it with the Default and dont' change anything else (accepting Default) it has nothing else installed. Nada... zippo. Not even basic network support. I can then go in and add in individual packages one at a time and eventually get Gnome or KDE to fire up, and it does run. Why though are the options missing? and why does Default install not include at least some of the Plus items I see in other installs I have done? Take a look at: http://www.smaug42.com/install/sample.html I have stuck up a couple snapshots to try and better illustrate the problem... I am not trying to go for the bells and whistles.. just a working system without all the agony this is causing. If I babysit the system and patiently add in each missing RPM (or compile from source) I can build up a working system. If I wanted to do that though I wouldn't be using SuSE, I would choose Slackware or some other more basic starting porint and then roll my own packages... which I have done on a 386 with a 1.2GB hard drive (and everything including KDE fit nicely - and yes KDE is veeerrry slow on the 386... I just did it to see if it could be done). C.