Jack, As one East Texan to another: (1) you're crazy for not running your own mail server, it is relatively easy and free; and (2) www.egroupware.org Ok Thanks David I will check into that one also an see how it goes. I did not make the choice on outsourcing the email, my boss says its cheaper to let them do it an for now I just go alone with it. He will retire in future then I can start do more things in house. I have both cable modem an dsl coming in an the cable modem is pretty much backup ( im using it pretty much to myself an have rest of lan on the dsl line). Long story why I have both hehehe. Again thanks for info will for sure check into that next week. On another note I see that you have a suddenlink email addy. How is there service down there. I can not complain much , here at home since they took over from cox my service seems to be bit faster an at work it about the same. Well off to bed for now. Jack -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org