Hello, There are major problems with the US mirrors. To get the security updates I had to try all the mirrors to get them all. I have found that I must manaully run the update using all US mirrors to get all the patches. I have done this 2-3 days after the announcement. I would expect all mirrors to be up to date by then. But they are not. I did this on 20 machines varring which mirror to use first over the next 4 days. So to summerise even after 7 days from the announcement not all mirrors have all the security updates. I use the security annouce list. The dates I used were Jan 16-20 Jan 29-Feb2 Feb 8-... And this is by far the best. The opensuse OSS and the factory stuff you can just forget it. I noticed this was mentioned in the IRC. But I do not think Novell/OpenSUSE group understand just how bad it is. I have been lobbying a lot of business to try OpenSUSE that could lead to SLES contracts. They are totally dismayed at how bad this situation is. They were trying to get SUSE Linux 10.0. It was released in Oct and it is now Feb and they are unable to find a complete mirror. I know that Xmission hosts many projects. I have thought about talking with them about OpenSUSE and being a mirror. take a look at mirror.xmission.com They do have a suse directory but it is way out of date. You will not that debian and slackware are upto date. I would like to know if I should contact them. They are a very reliable mirror. I would really like to see the mirror situation discussed/resolved. Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047