I looked everywhere I could for rpm's for KDE, so I desided to download the gziped tarballs of KDE1.1 and compile them myself. The base of KDE compiled without problems, just follow the instructions on the INSTALL file and wait, and wait and wait. I tried compiling and installing glib C once and that was quick in comparison. The only compilation problems I had was that KDE 1.1 works with a more up to date Qt libary, and kfax. kfax had a probelm compiling, I dont know what as I am just a newbie, only haveing used linux for a year. Anyway, the make files are rearly good with kde, and you just need to remove the name of the faulty app once from the make file (It only occures once) this stops the neet recursive script from compiling that directory. Once this is done the rest of the graphics packages installed perfectly. Was it worth it? Well KDE 1.1 looks better, it is generaly the same but improved, I think if you can afford the time go ahead, but it is a big down load. Owen -- My Email address is permanent@altavista.net My top search engine is <A HREF="http://www.phoaks.com"><A HREF="http://www.phoaks.com</A">http://www.phoaks.com</A</A>> My web site <A HREF="http://home.clara.net/oms101/"><A HREF="http://home.clara.net/oms101/</A">http://home.clara.net/oms101/</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>