Op 01-11-12 16:40, Patrick Shanahan schreef:
* Oddball <monkey9@iae.nl> [11-01-12 07:13]:
I think some serious rethinking should be done about what is the aim on opensuse?
Create an os that is useless always broken but looks sometimes shiny? Or a system that uses only tools that work, and that are supported? A repair kit that is usable?, or just something that looks like it, but it is not even good enough to wipe your ass with? (difficult with a laptop or pc i agree.. :-D) This last sentence i take back, it is rude and irrelevant. (the joke is not even funny..)
I think, if opensuse continous, to go on, on this road, the userbase will shrink further.
What is the use of an update tool, if the system is broken?
I understand the attention needed for this app, but there are things broken that need more attention. But as i can only test, and find things that do not work the way they should, and show them, by using the system, my input is limited, so i will shut my head for now.
While you are certainly allowed to speak your feelings, those utterances are the result of frustration of your own making. Continuing in this manner will definitely, and has already, alienate those inclined to lend you assistance which so far you either dismiss or only half perform.
Wipe your disk(s) after backingup your <home>. Make a *new* install w/o selecting *kde3* apps. Boot into your new system with a *new* user and attempt to do *controlled* and *reversable* changes to achieve your needs. Then and only then import your saved <home> a portion at a time checking that something does not change your system adversely.
Return and *sanely* request assistance w/o the rants and derogatory. Perhaps you will get help and perhaps not.
*You* are *your* own worst enemy.
Yes, i admit you are totally right here. Sometimes one gets frustrated, and blows of steam, after days of fruitless tries to achieve some simple looking things, and end up with nothing at all. At the deepest point, one is glad there is some assistance, and grateful to have learned so many things in a very short time. I am no exception on that.. My apologizes for words that were not chosen carefully, and not even meant that strong, however there is truth in them, but i am only human. I also have put a lot of energy in showing what a regular user experiences, and i rather say it in someones face, than behind his back. And it is true that the tools have been better, and that it is a lot of work without proper tools, always. Also, without proper tools, people need more help. I admit, my choice of words was sometimes very bad, and for that i want to apologize once more, And for the help i have had, i am very grateful, and i want to thank for that also once more. Kind regards, -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-4-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.9.2 "release 511" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org