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so why is there one system of 11.0 that looks differently from the other clean installed one? also, why dont i see all those daily, monthly, weekly et. al. entries in /var/log/messages that they are being executed on this machine with "empty" crontab? your reasoning cant possibly be true, or where do i fail to understand cron stuff in opensuse? both machines have plenty of opensuse default entries in the cron.daily directory for example. the one machine writes lines about their execution into messages, the other one doesnt. and i doubt that this other machine actually does anything thats in those cron directories. all my logs etc and that basic stuff never got logrotated so far on that machine as an example. thats one of the dailies i think. there has to be some bug here? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org