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Peter Van Lone wrote:
On 6/23/08, David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: <snip good stuff>
If Novell's plan is anything close to what I've opined, then Novell needs to be candid and honest with its user base. If Novell had said, "Hey, kde4 isn't ready yet, but we would like you guys (and girls) to load it and help get it functional so we can be the first distro to integrate it an provide kde4 functionality so it will give us a leg up on the competition when we're done", I would have been more than happy to say -- "sure, I don't mind helping, helps you generate income, helps me get a better distro."
But instead, for whatever the actual reason, Novell has, intentionally or unintentionally, completely angered and alienated a significant minority, if not majority, of its core user base and supporters. It has given duplicitous reasons, and outright Bush/Cheney explanation for why kde4 is stuffed on top of 11.0 and why kde3 is on the way out. The Mandrake legacy all over again.
If somewhere within the Linux side of Novell someone thinks they are being "smart" with this course of conduct, let the user base remind you -- "honesty is always the best policy." It's demanded as a right, not asked as a favor.
that was one of the few posts in this whole series of posts that actually provided a bit of cogent analysis and speculation.
I don't think Novell has sly plans to force users to GNOME, nor do I think that Binner really meant what his words seemed to convey (I think it is a language thing ...). I don't think Novell are evil manipulators out to screw KDE and it's loyal following.
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Having said that the tone of much of this dialogue has been pathetic and sky is falling and screechy stupid shit that I am tired of.
Peter
The is was posted a couple of days ago in opensuse-announce by Dirk Mueller: QUOTE Hi, There's an openSUSE KDE Community meeting is coming up tomorrow, Wednesday, June 24th. Contrary to our usual schedule, the meeting is two hours earlier (!), starting at 16:00 GMT Topics can be proposed also in advance on http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings The current list of topics: * old action items * KDE repository splitting (remove :Extra-Apps?) * KDE3 to KDE4 migration for openSUSE 11.1 * take a look at http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Ideas for 11.1. Please join us if you're interested. We'll meet at #opensuse-kde on irc.freenode.net at 16:00 GMT. Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=6&day=24&year=2008&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 to figure out when this is in your time zone. :-) Greetings, Dirk UNQUOTE What is the 3rd item on the agenda? The minutes of this meeting are yet to be released. Ciao. -- It's not possible to operate honestly using a basis of dishonesty. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org