-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, i read the most of this mailing-list "changes going forward". but still, i have no idea where to asked my questions, maybe my english is to bad, maybe there where no clear enough explanation i understand, maybe i have not 100% read this. could anybody make this clear for me, i do not like to waste other peoples time and i am willing to try to use the correct mailing-list: lets make some example's: (some real problems at the moment:) 1) question: a (this) package has a problem: gcad3d2.352+git20170420.b5668e9-1.1.rpm -- i asked this on this list what to do. because no answer, so maybe wrong list, but i do not know. meanwhile i have contacted upstream and packer and got responds from both, so i think problem will be in future fixed. but, where to asked if i do something wrong with installation or if it IS a package problem? - here I found by myself out it IS not a local installation problem, its a package problem., but after receive infos from packer, its not a package but a upstream problem. but often i do NOT find this out by myself so, where to ask? 2) question "how did virt-manager shut down guests if the host will be shut down, will it kill the guests, or will it send the power-down event (and of course if the os in guest reacts) go down normal and if it is like this where could i set the waiting time before killing guest (if need to long to shut down guest os normal) and if it normally kills, how to write a script if host kills guests when shutdown, and stop shutdown, send power down to guest, wait some time, and continue with host shutdown????? (because i think at my local installation time is to short or i reconfigured something it will only kill) 3) after a update tumbleweed "dup" something will not work as before, question: is this known, (because i am not able to debug some stuff by myselfe, i am only user) should i provide more info, and IF, how do i provide more info SOMETIMES i am not able to bring such problems to a POINT to "name" it in therms of a seach sting for the problem to use search engines. telling me: search in bugzilla will therefore not help me. i feel for me all 3 questions are support questions, because I need "support@" to go further. but the third should maybe go to tumbleweed="factory@" or are this all general questions and should be asked (at "opensuse@" it would be very fine, if this would be made clear for me. and maybe write what group of questions (with examples) should go to what list. ... writing "support" questions should go to support@ is not helpful, because ALL software-hardware-questions need in some way some support (in (my) german translation) to fix. regards, simoN - -- www.becherer.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJbHpn1AAoJEOuDxDCJWQG+DOYP/1v1TEAhzO1Zp4LdCUSJfape iX8Mz9kXoL+IXkH3zh5+rGIQ7WGaVCT+aEWJz8kODkIyRLRHlYDdmHwXsi943uOq B7MA91+pfZJUfNbM5peqOh4FhXynmFbOBlgM8sKlN2oKnN2hD11oj6Cr5f9PU2DU P0tjI6ncRcIXCB3A9gIm51hn3/rVyKdg4k/rNTYq9WXPiOsC/8CUDapPlHLxa1BW 5bGjIioetxcXF8sWGHaDvqhoa8a6B3l0cMHZIKuoe8SbBuVgesEx5Qwnj26tlEax FkNQFcgFfIPk8CnsFPCQMXn8UXW49sKCH92F6inA+/IJ9/d7YDr/2LRDacLd2mSH ksnHOP8gjMUcYCNsnvjdytSwDAydbzaY7AlbgWdGiAcqxPYh5j/eMF+kwdcg/ARP QR3bvr89o2q0NQgs7eBVpPmSpdESAfG4iegE9S3qQNgK0KtRW9XN6cztHuGbEoy4 lHIpyRYNGi8tmU+cPPGNbTN1MJ01cHQbKc54kGsEoeDBGeNKHS2wUmbCMohv1g5d Z7JOUfhqjxtCOK7TwjareelbNlcnDAUyc7tU2xZqM3z+gVttOqMpKHQt+Wufa42X luFu6lV3mXI+fkOLl+mfXrWe88U0K9ojK7T7BAkQkQy6NpN/D/DBsYrA9w0vHz8L C6uTsaW0I5qLd2buXk9h =mUHR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org