On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 1:37 AM, buhorojo <buhorojo.lcb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 19/11/15 02:40, Malcolm wrote:
On Wed 18 Nov 2015 07:15:37 PM CST, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> wrote:
* buhorojo <buhorojo.lcb@gmail.com> [11-18-15 18:11]: [muuuuccchhhhh quoting removed ... ]
I think the thing about version 1 of anything is a good one.
*Except* as version numbers run on openSUSE, they are *meaningless* except to denote another different collection of applications. Version XX.2 will be different, but not necessarily better, sounder, more secure, less apt to break, (put anything else here that you can imagine).
Version numbers for openSUSE only denote *differences* which usually are not mutually compatible.
It's not just here either. At school we are not allowed windows 10 until the service pack 1 is out.
Windows XXX (put any number here) is not linux, but appears to be trying to come closer to linux by very devious and aimless routes.
As it's up to us to be able to justify our choice of opensuse, the leap version has come at just the wrong time as we've only just proven that 13.2 does the job.
You can pick yer pizen, 13.1 -> 13.2 -> leap42.1 -> leap-next But remember that "1" is just a number, a place holder whose meaning is unrelated to anything except the version after the previous version.
If you care to, you can search the archives and find supportive statements. The *notion* that 1 is worse than 2 is a figment of imagination. openSUSE!
Patrick,
You are out of date. In the new world:
Leap 42.1 is a first release that correlates with SLES 12 (a first release).
As SLES 12 gets service packs, Leap 42.2, etc. will be released.
Leap will stay in the 42.x series until SLES 13 is released. At that time Leap 43.1 will be released.
Greg
Hi It's SLE 12 SP1 hence the .1 == SP1 as opposed to the SLE 12 initial release (SP0) many moons ago... ;)
Hi Yeah.OK. Our task is to convince our superiors that 13.2 was a good choice. They come back to us saying that now it's all changed because they look at a new name and new numbers. They can decide on windows because it's what their superiors in turn tell them. The only say we have is what we use for our projects. Understandably they are concerned now we've thrown this at them.
From the last message here, I think we're onto a winner in that we can go back with feedback that this version not only pertains to opensuse but it is indeed already a service pack. What they'll now tell us is that 12 is a version behind 13. To those who know nothing about computers, version numbers are everything.
Is this a good argument that we'll be able to support?
I wouldn't necessarily make that argument. Less than 25% of Leap comes from SLES 12 (SP1). That portion should be the quality you imply. That is the core infrastructure, systemd, etc. The other 75% is what one would have expected from a 13.3 release. (ie. from Factory just like 13.3 would have been). Embedded in the 75% the equivalent of KDE 5. That is a major KDE release and Leap 42 is the first non-Tumbleweed release from openSUSE to have it. As implied, I would give Leap a month or more to stabalize, then start evaluating it to see if it is a good update candidate for you. The openSUSE security update support lifetime is 2 releases + 2 months. That means 13.2 should be supported until 2 months after Leap 42.2 is released (around Nov 2016). There should be no urgency to move off of 13.2. In fact 13.1 is an extended support release and is expected to be supported for at least another yearl, so a lot of openSUSE users will be sticking with 13.1 for a while yet. https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen#Supported_distributions Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org