On Saturday 02 November 2002 04.52, Philipp Thomas wrote:
Anders Johansson <andjoh@rydsbo.net> [Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:39:31 +0100]:
You could use the X server for more than a game couldn't you?
Yeah, and have a Xserver that'll possibly break when I switch to another kernel or other libraries. No thanks!
As opposed to an X server that breaks without doing anything at all?
but they have traditionally given the linux community outstanding support.
What, please, do you call outstanding support?
Fixing bugs as they appear. Giving the linux community the same 3D capabilities that the windows drivers have. Producing linux drivers at the same time as windows drivers fot new graphics cards.
I don't want to recall the troubles I had with the Nvidia drivers.
I haven't had any. I have had real problems with ATI cards though. I don't think it's a binary/open source issue.
And looking at the trouble, binary only drivers have caused for SuSE, I've decided to plainly refuse to run binary only drivers if I can avoid it.
Your choice, of course.
Binary only apps I can live with (grudgingly), but bo drivers are just simply BAD. Even some core XFree86 developers agree that it was a bad idea to introduce the modular design,
X is designed?
given the way vendors have abused it to create bo xfree modules.
Round objects! There are two types of vendors in this world. Those who release specs to produce open source drivers, and those who don't. Linux has to support both if 'regular' windows users are to be won over. The fact that the kernel *still* doesn't have a stable ABI to support vendor provided modules on CDs shipped with the hardware is to my mind the biggest disgrace in the kernel design. I have no ideological reasons for using linux, I use it because it's better than windows, but I really want my hardware to work. Whether it's by binary only drivers or with open source drivers, I really don't care as long as it works. Anders