Hi, Everyone seems to forget that heart of the ACPI problems is the fact that ACPI support in the kernel code is still not correct. Until the kernel hackers get it right we are all going to have these problems. Now many of the ACPI errors in the kernel have been fixed, but not ALL of them yet. Please be patient, the guys are working on it and it is only a matter of time. PeterB On Wednesday 30 April 2003 11:34 am, Martin wrote:
Thanks for encouragement and directions ;), but this aint gonna change the fact both apci & apm suck and don't work the way they are supposed to even on 'apci & apm' aware hw lile my IBM T30.
To be honest this is the only thing I'm missing to be a happy camper at the moment but nobody seems to be able to help out. I guess it's because it just doesn't work or it's a gray area nobody has enough expertise for.
Martin
--- O'Smith <penguin0601@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Wednesday 30 April 2003 02:23, dep wrote:
folks, it seems as if a trend is emerging here.
for some reason -- whether it is hardware that is
not built to the
appropriate level of a still-evolving standard, or
linux's
application of that standard, which was cooked up
by microsoft,
intel, and toshiba -- acpi as shipped with suse
8.2 and enabled by
default is breaking a lot of stuff. for a start,
many if not all
gigabyte motherboards are unable to use network
cards or the onboard
networking. this seems true of the mbs of some
other makers as well.
as with early pcmcia or early usb (or, sadly,
current serial),
something is badly broken.
the support database does not even hint that this
is a problem --
even if you do a search on acpi. (the three items
listed all deal
with power management or vmware.) nor would
anybody -- i do not know
what led linuxworld999 to it -- guess that acpi is
the culprit.
could, maybe, someone from suse who is on this
list forward a note to
the guys who handle the database, such that an
appropriate entry be
made? this thing is a real showstopper unless, as
has been suggested,
one have another distribution/version available or
another machine.
and, while you're at it, a little something about
disabling hardware
detection if you have a serial mouse (didn't, for
instance, replace
your perfectly functional $100 kensington
trackball)? the database is
silent on this issue as well.
it would turn a lot of sour stories -- i'll gladly
quote the ones
sent to me privately -- to happy ones if people
were able to find out
about this stuff. -- dep
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Guys! All this stuff (acpi) is mentioned in the manuals SuSE takes so much time to write and print for us, it just requires a bit of reading on our part. Do you remember how to do that? Plus, I am sure there is mention of ACPI in your motherboard manual and how it might affect things. This is a BIOS setting, that on some motherboards it causes the nic not to be seen or work correctly! ACPI Aware OS=y/n
Sorry to sound like a broken record, but I think SuSE has done quite well in informing the user about these things and how to get around most of them. They can't be held responsible for the hardware too! Have you written any emails to Gigabyte complaining yet that their hardware does not comply to ACPI standards? Have you chastised your hardware builder for not checking things out prior to building the computer? PC hardware is not all created equal and if you plan on playing with these things, you have to understand that first!
If you need hand holding, call Mom not SuSE. If you take it on yourself to install computer software then learn to expect some disappointments and ask for help in the correct forums. Those too are supplied by SuSE in the manuals.
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