On Wednesday 30 April 2003 02:23, dep wrote:
folks, it seems as if a trend is emerging here.
for some reason -- whether it is hardware that is not built to the appropriate level of a still-evolving standard, or linux's application of that standard, which was cooked up by microsoft, intel, and toshiba -- acpi as shipped with suse 8.2 and enabled by default is breaking a lot of stuff. for a start, many if not all gigabyte motherboards are unable to use network cards or the onboard networking. this seems true of the mbs of some other makers as well. as with early pcmcia or early usb (or, sadly, current serial), something is badly broken.
the support database does not even hint that this is a problem -- even if you do a search on acpi. (the three items listed all deal with power management or vmware.) nor would anybody -- i do not know what led linuxworld999 to it -- guess that acpi is the culprit.
could, maybe, someone from suse who is on this list forward a note to the guys who handle the database, such that an appropriate entry be made? this thing is a real showstopper unless, as has been suggested, one have another distribution/version available or another machine.
and, while you're at it, a little something about disabling hardware detection if you have a serial mouse (didn't, for instance, replace your perfectly functional $100 kensington trackball)? the database is silent on this issue as well.
it would turn a lot of sour stories -- i'll gladly quote the ones sent to me privately -- to happy ones if people were able to find out about this stuff. -- dep ==============
Guys! All this stuff (acpi) is mentioned in the manuals SuSE takes so much time to write and print for us, it just requires a bit of reading on our part. Do you remember how to do that? Plus, I am sure there is mention of ACPI in your motherboard manual and how it might affect things. This is a BIOS setting, that on some motherboards it causes the nic not to be seen or work correctly! ACPI Aware OS=y/n Sorry to sound like a broken record, but I think SuSE has done quite well in informing the user about these things and how to get around most of them. They can't be held responsible for the hardware too! Have you written any emails to Gigabyte complaining yet that their hardware does not comply to ACPI standards? Have you chastised your hardware builder for not checking things out prior to building the computer? PC hardware is not all created equal and if you plan on playing with these things, you have to understand that first! If you need hand holding, call Mom not SuSE. If you take it on yourself to install computer software then learn to expect some disappointments and ask for help in the correct forums. Those too are supplied by SuSE in the manuals. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.9.1i --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...