I have downloaded SuSE's version of KDE beta 4 I like it up to a point. I haven't been able to make something to bring me back to a different wm from it yet, I dislike that I can't switch wm from it, don't like getting stuck. I notice KDE cdplayer Kscd has a anoying problem now. The CDDB data base of CDs, well it looks for the CD I have in, finds it, then displays the artist/title and song, but then disapeers after a few seconds, never to return. :( Anoying, KDE beta 3 didn't have this problem. Also notice a few games still are buggy, and may even hang the system. -- Steven Udell Wayfarers hettar@teleport.com for truth love sudell@teleport.com and courage <A HREF="http://www.teleport.com/~hettar"><A HREF="http://www.teleport.com/~hettar</A">http://www.teleport.com/~hettar</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e