Dave said the following on 12/12/2009 08:35 AM:
So what did the installer do to the lisa account that did not happen to the dave account? Is this causing my problems with firefox? Is there anyway I can do the dave account what happened to the lisa account?
Weird. But I think it was the other way round. As you said - "my wife's was unchanged from 11.1" - so I think it was *your* ('dave') account that was altered (why else have the displaced icon with new ownership?) and I think that was a result of you 'creating' the user 'dave' during the installation. It sounds like you either reformated / or did something that caused the /etc/passwd file to be ignored. That's why you had to create the accounts. I went through a similar thing when I moved from Mandriva to openSuse; I have /home as a separate file system (one of many) but reformatted / and /usr/share. I'm guessing that there's something subtly different between the "account creation" in the install and the normal 'useradd'. The "normal" method sees the home already exists and leaves it alone - you say "my wife's was unchanged from 11.1." I don't think the 'delay' was 'importing' so much as checking and constructing the references in /etc/{passwd,shadow,group}. But 'creating' the 'dave' account must have written various stuff from the 'template'. I've just looked at /usr/sbin/useradd.local, /etc/default/useradd, and that led me to /etc/skel. However I don't see anything there would be a new Firefox icon. But then this is still 11.1 YMMV. I may be quite wrong in this speculation, but it fits in with my own experience (which is always a good sign of prejudice!) and sounds reasonable. But I know from time on a support desk that even with technically sophisticated people can miss out on reporting things that are crucial because its outside their experience - or why else would they be calling the support desk? Hence the Rumsfield quote in my earlier message. Is this problem 'repeatable'? That's always something the support desks want to know. Probably, given various conditions. One of them a particular mind-set (aka state of knowledge-ignorance-experience) and other physical conditions that held when you did this, which of course people with a different mind-set (q.v.) wouldn't have and so it wouldn't happen to them. Hence, in forums like this, upset arising and the more experienced types seeming arrogant and short-tempered. Somehow I don't think you're going to encounter _exactly_ this problem again, though I would be curious what a brand new account (call it 'anton' perhaps) looks like. Would there be a root owned Firefox icon on the desktop? -- Now let us retract the foreskin of misconception and apply the wire brush of enlightenment. --Geoff Miller, in comp.lang.perl.moderated -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org