Hello, I still waiting for my SuSE 5.3 (2 weeks later) And I live one state away from thier US home site. I gave away all my old SuSE to friends and before I did this I broke my 5.2 trying to get all the updates for a Development kerenel to work.(like SU wont work no more and such) So I basicly out of a Linux untill SuSE 5.3 gets here. I can still boot to Linux SuSE 5.2 w/kernel 2.0.53 w/sound modulerized :P But things are way broken :P I am sure I could fix what I broke but I aint at that level yet. I'm basicly a END user of Linux, just digging into C, Emacs, debuging, and learning what each and every thing does. I have looked into packages such as Samba/Networking/Apache/wm(s) that I am beta testing with core dumps(sending em off to the developer) Helped with information about Adaptecs aic7xxx driver with the developer Doug Ledford. Gesh I am having a blast on Linux so far. (whats it been a solid year or more of me playing with linux on a daily bases) On the Sound problem, I too have an ISA SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold. Never have I got the midi to work on it, tho all other sound works fine. Yes I do have it as a sound moudule and each time I boot linux I do two things from the root login: modprobe -a sound/and start my ppp connection ppp-on(pon). But I have got around not having midi by useing Timitity. Tho not really midi, it does make it work and the Netscape plug make midi pages work great with Timitity. Second: I have found that kppp and kmid/k anything never works for me. Tho why would I want to be restrained to a WM desktop for running my net connection/sound is beyond me. Third: SuSE hasn't put in a MIDI package that seems to work. Jazz? well I just want right now for MIDI to play, I have no knowledge of mix mastering midi tracks so I think JAZZ is out of the question. fourth: OSS has sorta worked for me in the past. Yes I did pay 20 bucks for it when I first got Linux on my computer to get sound. But it fell short of playing anything/or freezeing my system except Audio CD through workman/motif CD player or I did get wav playing in the start up of TK-DESK. But thats it! When I leared how to modulerize sound in the Kernel, everything worked flawlessly except MIDI. :) go figure.. whats so bad about typeing modprobe -a sound? Michael Lankton: Dunno if your going to get this, but maybe you will. I hope you have found a way to get sound working on the SuSE by your methods, if you have got MIDI to play on a SuSE 5.2 or older. I'd like to hear about it on the SuSE mailing list. I wish you would come back. Alot of people have more than one Linux distro on thier HDS, feel free to do so, I think I remember you haveing freeBSD too? Giving up on SUSE in one hour of fustration is not the way to go. I am sure alot of people here would be more than willing to help you figure out a way to get it going. So come back :P Last I think its very wrong to nail someone to the wall over thier fustration level. As Hubert said, consider all Linux distros broken Geesh haveing over 1800 packages, you'd think that ALL works right out of the box. ;) I don't think so. and not haveing glibc2 right now maybe fustrating for thoes who want/need/would like to use NOW. But consider SuSE 5.3 the last rock solid libc5 distro, that might be used for the base for a solid non fustrating level of use, that someone with a critical box might not want to use a glibc2 system for, I hear alot of people complaining about glibc2, and alot of people say its good/faster at the same time. So I guess I can wait a bit or stick Debian 2.0 on a different partition to find out how well glibc2 is doing. Steve Udell hettar@teleport.com sudell@teleport.com Michael Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Hubert Mantel wrote:
Judging from the postings it seems to me that this sound problem is the one and only real problem you encountered. If you consider a distribution broken because of one minor issue, there will always be broken dists for you. Ok, you didn't have this specific problem with 5.2 but there have surely been more bugs in 5.2 than in 5.3. Most people could consider any and all Linux distributions broken.
I think he had a bad week and overreacted. To me saying a dist is suited to be trashed just cause you can't play midi, seems to border on the ridiculous. Anyways, hopefully, we can move on, as I'd hate to see the list hostage to the disenchanted. :-) Michael, who is still looking forward to 5.3.
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