On 11/20/09 22:37, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
But you can not make a reasonable default for every body, you need several. You have to ask at the start of every install what is the intended usage of the installation, and then, take appropiate defaults for each one. Hi Carlos,
I don't want to disagree with the above, except that in this very particular case it is actually _perfectly_ possible to make a reasonable default for everybody. Just start sshd by default - as has been the case since SuSE Linux switched from rsh to ssh.
/Per
First, I too don't like SSH disabled by default, but even before I had to turn off firewall to be able to use it, so it is not a big difference. I have my own firewall script just for machines that need firewall, and no firewall on the others. IMHO, there is one very easy way to have "reasonable default" for everybody: if I select any of the "server" software selections, make SSH enabled AND open firewall for it by default, otherwise don't. But in any case let the user have final word. Would this be too hard to do, let's say in 11.3? Btw, even NFS is ENABLED by default (if installed), although without configuration files it won't do anything, and that is one more that I would like to see disabled by default, together with avahi-daemon, bluez-coldplug, nscd, rpcbind, splash* and *preload to name just a few that I disable the first time I log into a server. Best regards, Siniša -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org