On 21/04/17 11:26 AM, L A Walsh wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
"set-up users" being what? Someone running the opensuse install DVD and trying to install an unfamiliar distro for the first time.
People who build and configure kernels are usually system administrator grade or functionaries.
---- Do you need to know how to build or configure a kernel to install opensuse from the installation DVD.
Someone who might be looking to replace MS Windows on their computer ....
Well, you've just described two different types of people. There MIGHT be an overlap, but then again the often isn't. Anyone _motivated_ to move from Windows to Linux, motivated enough to do an install, as opposed to the 'just curious' who are trying out Linux on a LiveCD (possibly copied to USB for speed) isn't going to be an ignorant newbie. It is someone who is motivated, that kind of person won't be approaching things blind. he, or she, will have done some reading, some research, and have a clue as to differences and such like. They are likely to have tried to configure Windows and suffered frustrations. They expect, quite probably hope, that Linux will be different, be more visible, more mutable. Certainly the vast amount of How-To and Q&A out there on the 'net (admittedly its a lot better for Ubuntu and Arch than it is for openSuse) would lead them to believe that.
Someone who may have little knowledge about the command line -- or at least one where most things don't work.
Since so much of the documentation, the How-to, the Q&A on Linux is CLI-oriented, the better to explain And illustrated the set-up of what's going on and the options you have, in a way that is usually hidden by GUI, I'd expect the people I've just described above to see that if you want to work under the hood with Linux then CLI is the way to go. Of course there's the gulf as described here: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/murphy/why-many-mcses-wont-learn-linux/1137 But lets face it, that's about entrenchment. Any so obsessed with GUI that he, or she, doesn't see that all those How-to, Q&A and more spend so much time describing CLI ways of doing things that they don't get the message is, of course, going to be frustrated. Other people, people with more tolerance, people with more curiosity, are going to do things like work their way through the menu options to see what they do, what is available to them. They are going to experiment. In doing so they will learn.
How much knowledge do people have to have in order to install (setup) open suse from the DVD?
How vanilla an install (set-up) do you want. Your issue, Linda, is that you don't want a vanilla install (set-up), you want to customise in many ways, but you don't want to do a vanilla install and then later iterate (using the CLI, drakut etc). You want a custom install. You want it with the GUI, not with hot keying to another VT where you can do CLI things in parallel. Not build a LVM system first and then set up a thin partition the way that I and others have done, people who do make use of LVM extensively, people who reliably boot into a LVM based system. So please stop asking trick question. Please stop doing this "yes but" play. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org