Hi all, There is an apt-get for SuSE and using it you can update to Gnome 2.8 (The usr-local-bin APT component contains the latest GNOME packages built for SuSE Linux that is maintained by James Ogley .). An informative web site detailing some of the ins and outs of using Ogley's builds with APT can be found here: http://www.tuxme.com/node/7 If you wait until SuSE 9.3 comes out, next month, I understand that you'll not only get Gnome 2.8 but it will have been configured by the Ximian members of the Novell clan as an alternative to KDE - still to be the default on 9.3. I had Ximian running on SuSE 7.2 until I upgraded to 9.0. Ximian's Gnome was much better than SuSE's version but required a lot of sorting out back in 7.2 then to get it to work right - that's why I stuck with 7.2 so long because when I got it configured the way I wanted it, I wanted to keep it that way for a while. I've been waiting for the first Ximian effort on SuSE since you can't purchase Ximian Gnome any longer. When SuSE 9.3 does hit the scene, Gnome 2.10 will be a month old (due out in a few weeks). So getting current with Gnome using SuSE is always going to require some work. Apt-get for RPM is probably the best bet in helping Gnome lovers stay current. As an aside to this question; has anyone on this list serve used YUM - a program for upgrading multiple distros on networks developed by Duke University? I understand it will go out on the web and get the updates/upgrades similarly to apt-get but can handle a multi-distro network and keep all the distros up to date ... so I've heard. So if anyone has any real live experience using this program with SuSE I'd be interested in hearing more about how good or how bad it is. If you haven't heard of YUM and want more info click here: Yum@lists.dulug.duke.edu Cheers, Tom -- Thomas E. Beasley, Jr.- Registered Penguinista # T308709 http://counter.li.org , Using Free Software since SuSE Linux 6.4. Currently using SuSE Linux 9.0 Pro and enjoying the Penguin :-)