On Monday 21 August 2006 03:00, Anders Johansson wrote:
As a short summing up, your complaints about suse as compared with kubuntu are
- Documentation - Software Management - Drivers
(a) and (b), yes. The drivers is only a minor point. It's uncommon that i have to fiddle with unusual drivers. And about documentation:
I can't comment on the documentation, because to be honest, I've never read it.
i hadn't either, until Suse 10.1 ;). Then i had to search around so much to get my DVDs and videos working... Searching through the wiki was a nightmare. It's all so disorganized and spread out, without a single common point of reference (e.g., a single table of contents). This is, however, common in Wikis, and is why i don't care for them in general. Kubuntu's docs, on the other hand, are concise, well-indexed, and have the exact commands one needs to fix a problem, as opposed to "find xxx.rpm, download it, and install it." They're a model of good introductory docs, IMO.
The software management has been done to death, everyone knows the current state of it, and it's being worked on very actively, I don't think anything more can be usefully added, except bug reporting for new issues
Agreed.
Which leaves the drivers: you have the closed source kernel modules, which Ubuntu can't ship anymore than SUSE can, if they want to avoid a lawsuit. But if there is an open source module that isn't being included for some reason, could you point me to it? If you don't want to do it yourself, I can open a bug report to get it included
i'm not sure if the r1000 driver is open source or not, to be honest. The source is available, but i don't know what the license is. i got the fix/info from here: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=36365 And the driver from here: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?lineid=1&famid=4&series=2004111&Software=True (Achtung: that's probably word-wrapped) It's under: "Linux driver for kernel 2.4.x and 2.6.x, version 1.04" i don't know if it's worth entering a bug report for because i don't really think it's a bug, but simply an omission (which might have legal grounds). i can't really fault any distro just because it's missing my one special driver. In the case of a NIC, i keep an old, reliable USB NIC around just for such cases. It was just bonus points for Kubuntu that it supported my NIC out of the box. -- ----- stephan@s11n.net http://s11n.net "...pleasure is a grace and is not obedient to the commands of the will." -- Alan W. Watts