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On Monday 16 March 2009 02:40:14 pm Tony Alfrey wrote:
Rajko M. wrote:
We have this http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette to improve user experience.
To goal is to make archives source of information, not garbage collectors.
What can make archives useful? - no offtopic discussions + no answers on OT topics
1. Do not archive posts subject-marked with OT. Can this not be automated?
It is already done for opensuse-offtopic list, so all kind souls that think there is something interesting should subscribe there. It is easy as it could be. The archive is not the only problem. Load of mails that is hard to follow for people that just subscribed. Imagine poor guy that has a problem to install openSUSE. Subscribes to the list using Windows, and all of the sudden load of emails starts comming. How to make sense of that? I'm not surprised that new guys prefer forums.
2. Simply ignore a post that is headed toward a rant.
That is good advice. Just if people would apply it. It is hard to resist not to comment a good joke, but if we would make custom to make comment like:"I'm in a chat room (offtopic list).", and post full comment there, there will be benefit for everybody.
The post will appear in the archive at least once anyway. If others pile on to object, that adds noise for at least several cycles. There will always be noisemakers regardless of netiquette. If one thinks guidance will help, make reference to netiquette off-list, otherwise simply ignore noise.
I'm not for anything strict. There is offtopic list and quite few people are subscribed. More are welcome. I recall old opensuse forums used mostly trough NNTP interface. Their chat room was the one with the highest number of posts, and not all was non technical. It was just a room that had no restrictions. The opensuse@opensuse.org is for new user help, anything that is not new user problem doesn't belong here. I appreciate more ideas, how to make offtopic list something where one wants to be, not the other way around. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org