jdd wrote:
Richard Creighton wrote:
eminently fair and for the most part, accurate. I think any inaccuracies could be attributable to unfamiliarity rather than bias. If this reviewer hadn't been what I would call a 'Power-user', and had instead been someone converting from Windows, not only would they probably not have had a successful install
completely wrong.
because he is a power user, he have four linux on his laptop. It's already good if he could install at all. He don't say what answers he give to the questions, but, for example, is glad to have Yast asking if he wants to keep old users. Do you think he could have such question on a fresh install? I beg no. He is making an update. and what was the old Linux? who knows?
Balderdash! Are you saying that because he is experienced and that he has other distros or OS's on his system that he can't write an objective review and if he wants to upgrade his system from an older version instead of doing a 'fresh install', does that make his review less valuable. Few people I know want to erase months or years of configuration effort by the equivilent of FORMAT C: just to get a 'fresh install'. I have communicated with many from around the world that simply wanted to upgrade from 10.2 to 10.3 and the system failed miserably. Why should that not be reported if it is a fact? To insist that the only VALID test of an operating system or distro like 10.3 is to wipe your disk and start fresh in order to avoid problems is ludercrous and utterly unrealistic. It is lucky that he was a 'power user' or the review would likely have been a LOT less to your obviously biased liking. This group was asked earlier by management of openSuSE.org to try out other distros and report back our findings. I can't think of a better report than a user of another distro giving a reasonably fair evaluation of *our* product. If it has warts, we should be willing to admit it and do something constructive about it rather than burying our collective heads in the sand and saying '...but he is a power user on a special machine' and ignoring what he had to say.
so may be he got wireless working because it was working on the old install and so the firmware was at hand (how could he have it if not?) and x don't working because the old install was not completely compatible with the old one. He did give credit where credit was due. He only said that in many cases, Yast, is not very intuitive and that also is a fact. It is a dammed good program, but that doesn't mean it is perfect and can't stand improvement.
any intelligent review must be done on a fresh (not new) computer if it wants to be other than individual experience
Balderdash! Again! I think doing it on a so-called 'fresh' machine is very Microsoft in its' mentality. Who did you say you work for? Real life dictates that most installs will be upgrades not fresh installs and tests that ignore that fact are themselves deficient. So, if as you say, he did an upgrade, (which I didn't read from his report but might have missed), that makes the test even more valid, not less.
this is the install of a power user upgrading an old install. So, why does SuSE give the option to UPGRADE....if it isn't a valid method of getting the distro onto ones' disk, then it should simply erase everything and start fresh. That should make you happy and you can write your own review. Be sure and complain about the loss of all your favorite programs and settings and the amount of time it takes to relocate the programs and set them up again from scratch. It is your machine, after all, but for me, I want to know if I can still have success upgrading or if I can have dual or quadruple boot to other distros or even Windoze. Any review that leaves out that info is less valuable IMO. And lest we forget, right up front, he said that it had been a long time since he had used SuSE and he felt is was time to give it another try....which I think he did. So, again, SuSE management *should* read his review because it is not written from one of the lemmings, but from someone actually spending a bit of time and trouble evaluating the competition.
Richard
jdd
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