Dave Howorth wrote:
On Thu, 02 May 2024 19:43:36 -0000 "Atri Bhattacharya" wrote:
Inconvenient enough — also in my opinion pointless enough — that I would stop communicating with -devel (factory) and eventually stop contributing to openSUSE at all. Certainly more difficult than ignoring a few spam mails.
But we're talking about users@ and maybe support@ here; not other lists. And you haven't contributed here, or asked for advice, at all as far as I can see. What other lists do is up to them.
Hyperkitty begs to differ, for example (there are others, if you look back enough): https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/890365 based on <https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/thread/GDUB43XBWQPFH5ONS6WYWQCEARYHU3O4/#ABOWAV6MHDKMUVP4PTLPHWUOZ6G2OO2B> Admittedly a while ago, I used to scour these lists for packages that users wanted and were missing from the distro, to see if I could help out by packaging them. I think such package requests are fewer and fewer now, probably because we do such a great job already(!!!) or perhaps I have just too many to handle on my plate already, I have engaged less and less here (not going to lie, the tone of some of the messages here and on support@ have turned me off too). Anywho, back to the topic, I do not see how we could have one kind of policy for users@ and support@ and a whole different policy for factory@, python@, etc. where I do need to communicate from time to time. I would also consider it at least mildly insulting that I am branded a spammer and banned from mailing lists anywhere on lists.o.o.
I only posit that not all mails sent from the lists.o.o web interface are spam. Let us not throw the baby out with the bath water, please.
I agree that not all such mails are spam, but they're a very small proportion of the traffic, so asking that small proportion of people to use the forum for support instead seems a reasonable compromise IMHO.
As you rightly point out, it is a matter of opinion, not grounds for policy making. Cheers, -- Atri