Ok you unlucky ones, here it is: I live in Hawaii. I have spent a lot of time and effort setting my time to "gmt-10"= hawaii time. I realise that the work ethic around here does leave a lot of room to move around in, HOWEVER: as soon as I turned the xntpd daemon on, well, actually about 4-5 hours later, the kde displayed time jumped to California time, 2 hours ahead!!!! That would be too much for most but the real hard core "hawaii time die hards"!! I dutyfully right clicked on the time display, typed in my root pword and prepared myself to reset the time, ALAS, it WAS properly set in Yast!!!!!!! The kde display just added a couple of hours to confuse us haole insurgents!!!! Now the clincher: A "redo" resulted in a time display 3 hours behind the local time, that would be 5 hours behind California time and 3 hours behind "normal" time, ie summertime time diff from Ca (we do not the silly fall back / jump forward one hour bit in the fall and in the Spring)!!!!!!! I mean nothing against California, actually i wish them the best with their problems, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THEIR TIME AS MINE!!!!! Any ideas? tia, Dimitris