I have lost the ability to run kde as my normal user. It will run as root, but I don't like to do that. Here is my .X.err fille: bob@gandalf:~> cat .X.err /usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line 237: 5510 Bus error xauth -q -f $xserverauthfile <<EOF add :$dummy . $mcookie EOF Fatal server error: Cannot move old log file ("/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old" Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.X.Org for help. giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. Previous to this I was able to start kde but not open kmail or xchat. opening them in Konsole told me that they had crashed and showed a seg fault then when I restarted i got the message in .X.err about. I tried fiddling with the files mentioned, m rm-ing the old file and moving the log file to the old file, or removing both, but to no avail. I can supply the xsession files if that would help. I also have old dcop servers from previous dates if that is any help. What would you suggest? -- Bob Rea mailto:gapetard@stsams.org http://www.petard.us http://www.petard.us/blog http://www.petard.us/gallery Freedom is only privilege extended unless enjoyed by one and all --Billy Bragg