Carl Hartung wrote:
malcolm wrote:
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 01:24, Joseph Loo wrote:
I just got my AMD 64 and tried to load SUSE 9.2. I started to pick all kinds of installation settings and started the isntall. I keep coming up with files not found e.g., libread-java.
Do you think I am running into problems with the DVD drive or do I have to be more selective in loading the system up. The small isntallation seems to have install 64 bit versions but I want to load the system up for development.
-- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org
Joseph,
I have similar problems to you.
Yesterday I posted "9.2 package install failed".
I would be interested to know whether you have tried more than one install and whether you get the variations I get.
What is your DVD drive?
Malcolm.
Hi Malcom & Joseph,
I was going to chime in here yesterday but had no time. I highly recommend you Google _A LOT_ using various combinations of your motherboard model numbers plus your CPU chip names and speeds combined with the words "Linux" "installation" "problem" "unstable" "crash" etc. You will be amazed at how many people experience these problems and are surprised by them.
Frequent stability problems crop up with Linux (not just SuSE) when being installed and run on high end hardware. This is due to the high speeds and reduced margin for error.
Linux, generally, works the system memory and all I/O subsystems very hard, i.e. it expects various critical components and subsystems to run flawlessly according to specification.
If you even _think_ there could be 'cranky' hardware involved -- not failed components, but possibly marginal at the very top end of the specs claimed -- you will make a lot more progress and be a lot happier if you eliminate or solve those kinds of problems first.
Run the memory test provided at the start of the installation process, select the most thorough test and run it for at least 36 hours, preferably 48. Or, spend the money on brand-name memory that comes with 24 hour advance replacement and a lifetime warranty. You simply cannot compromise on memory running Linux.
Verify you've got an adequate film of high grade thermal conducting paste between the CPU and heat sink, not just the generic stuff shipped by AMD (this is common knowledge and they admit as much if you read between the lines on their website.) A high speed processor running at the very top end of it's thermal rating will sometimes get over-warm and unstable and corrupt data intermittently -- you know the old saying -- garbage in, garbage out. So you see, the cooling system and proper sizing of your PC chassis/case is important, too. (Don't forget how much heat is generated by main system & graphics memory, CD/DVD drives and high rpm (7,200+) hard disks, too., then think about all that heat combined into a single small enclosure. The problem is more intuitively understood this way.)
Verify your power supply is adequately sized to sufficiently supply the power-on surge required at cold boot. You'd be amazed how often "bare bones" systems are supplied with undersized power supplies once all the extra drives, main memory and extra high-end graphics memory is added in. When these systems are fully built out, the power supplies get pulled into operating right at the very top end of their rated specs (which are also frequently overstated a bit by some manufacturers).
Once power quality, thermal environment and component quality/stability issues have been attended to, _that_ is the time to start troubleshooting the OS & software/setup if problems arise.
Good luck!
- Carl
So what you are suggesting is that people should tailor their systems to suit Suse/Linux rather than the other way around. Sounds to me like a recipe for disaster for Linux. Cheers. -- "The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvellously."