I tried grip on my work PC first and it worked ok with the help of Togan's faq at http://dinamizm.ath.cx/articles/cdrip.html Now I have tried it at home and found that while it works at home too, for some reason it rips VERY slowly. The work and home PCs are similar (PIII 733 MHz and PIII 667 MHz) and rip/encode at comparable speeds in Windows. With SuSE 8.0 the work PC rips (no encoding) at 7x while the home PC rips at only 0.7x. Both are SCSI, both drives are Yamaha CDRWs although the work one is newer. Why would the work PC rip so slowly? The second major issue that I have with both PCs is that grip works while logged in as root but when logged in as a normal user, grip will not even run. Instead I get the following error message: Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper program instead. For further details, see: http://www.gtk.org/setuid.html Refusing to initialize GTK+. I removed the suid that the Togan FAQ had recommended to do. Grip ran without any error message when logged in as a normal user but I noticed that grip settings would not save and I couldn't get it to recognize the proxy server for CDDB access. Summary: why does grip rip so slowly on the home PC and what can I do to run grip as a normal user? Damon Register