A day later, I'm shocked how bad the user interface is for the Mac Text To Speech stuff. - With the built-in accessibility feature on the Mac there is a really nice, easy to listen and understand voice. (I used Alex, but there are several to choose from.) If you want it to read 20 pages of PDF material, you highlight it (select it), then hit option-escape and the reading commences. So far so good, but lets say you've queued up 20 minutes of material. Then 10 minutes in the phone rings, or you need a bio break so you want to pause, then continue. The Mac doesn't over that ability. When you restart the speaking it starts over from the beginning so you have to listen to the first 10 minutes again. Or you have to use the mouse to move around and find the text and re-select what you know want to hear. They also have a "voice-over" feature that verbalizes where the mouse is pointing. It is way too verbose to be useful for someone that has anywhere close to usable vision. It does have a pause / continue feature, but the verbosity is beyond what can be lived with. Crazy Bad feature set - With Acrobat Reader on the MAC, it is similar to Windows in that how the read paragraph behaves varies greatly based on how the PDF is internally structured. But with Windows the read to end of document feature works (but it seems to always start at the start of doc). On the Mac I could not get that feature to work. Acrobat too would reset to the start of document when reading under Win 7, so effectively for Acrobat on both Windows and MacOS it requires continuous interaction with mouse and/or keyboard. I haven't experimented much with openSUSE / Okular yet, but it has by far the worst actual voice of the 3. It is amazing to me that Mac and Adobe have got great voices speaking, but don't have decent user interfaces to manage the narrator. :( -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org