On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 09:06, zentara wrote:
Now that brings us back to the origin of this thread, and my basic gripe about the newer versions of SuSE. They are catering to the "Desktop Linux" crowd, instead of the "Secure Server" crowd. The installations are making it very easy to "automatically install" a desktop, but are making it more difficult to install a simple rock solid server, without all the fluff attached. It is becoming like "Windows was\is", and it is inevitable that this will happen, since you are trying to make "a no-brainer operating system" so newbies can be up and running in an hour and surfing the web.
When I install now, most of my time is spent "deinstalling" all the stuff I don't want, like getting rid of the "automatic framebuffer" and the stupid login graphics, or getting the firewall to work with my straight forward ppp login.
The "cute penquin" sitting on tty1 is'nt worth a damn thing, and probably is a security risk, since it adds to the complexity of the booting process, most of which is well hidden. So why do it? The answer to that is what is ruining the "linux experience".
That's why I use "minimium install" with my servers, and "default with X" for my desktops. Therefore, my servers have no problems with fluff when installed (although, they are still running 7.0, so I might retract this statement this weekend if 8.1 doesn't have a *true* minimum install ;^) ...but the point is, those options help alot between the two usages of the computers during install.