I know this is linux talk however I know some of you folks out there are screwing with THE KING OS too! I just fire up a Kt7 raid w/3 seagate barracudas ide drives 512sdram pc133 1.1gig ad4 ad6 ad7 are raided w/0 and on fire with ata100 highpoint 370's geforce2 ultra and sblive........oh don't forget cutting the video with 90 gigs of drive and bt848 with video........everything works after a 15 minute pile of the stack................. fired up MAC OS X on a dual 450.............needs a few more drivers but BSD has come a very long way this past few months................. 5.0 out this summer promises lots on the toy department............. Don't put BSD off at all, mac user will account for almost as many if not more than linux in the competition on windows................. Laters fellow hackers......... CrackRipper